I was reading through old threads and I read a post from the Admin.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 11^th Dec, 2013 at 6:09am:


This is one of the worst comments I've seen from admin, and I'm sorry but I am against this 100%

How can these language be irrelevant? Should every country just switch to English so we can all communicate with each other?
Why would one even call themselves  Lao if they think the Lao language is irrelevant?

First of all, English is not hard to learn. Anyone can learn it. I have some Lao friends who work as tour guides and they said they didn't really take any classes, they just looked on the internet and practiced a bit and they can speak it.

Why would someone have to stop speaking Lao/Thai just so you can speak English? That is the act of a true race traitor.

Relatives that think that just because they married a foreigner that they have to go back and speak English with all of their relatives in Asia?

That's so disgraceful that I'm at a loss for words. The truth is that most Southeast Asians are no different, whether it be Khmers, Burmese, Thais or Laos. English is simply seen as a status symbol rather than a tool for education.

As for TexasCowboy learning Lao, why wouldn't it be useful for him? I'm pretty sure not everyone in Laos speaks English, and if he speaks Lao then he can communicate with everyone, and also understand if people are trying to rip him off. The fact is, in Southeast Asia if you don't speak the local language you will get ripped off left and right. Be it at the market, hotel or anywhere, you will get charged double. Even if you DO speak the language, you will still get ripped off if you don't bargain. So by not speaking the language he is at a huge disadvantage.

Not everyone in Laos/Thailand is trying to learn English. Some care about English some don't. I've never spoken English in Southeast Asia once, not once. When people speak find out that I'm from America and try to speak English with me, I just completely shut down the conversation and make them look like a fool.

I can speak Thai, Lao and Khmer.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 25^th Jun, 2014 at 1:40am:


Um ... then, if, for instance, one has a very dear Lao friend who he hasn't seen much for a few years but he is planning on contacting her some time and maybe wants to learn a little Lao first, what do you think is the best way to learn some of the language if one currently has no other Lao acquaintances?  (She speaks English like a native of the U.S. ... I just think it would be fun to learn a little Lao.) 

Also -- how similar are the Lao and Thai languages?  I've been listening to some Thai music that I picked up from the internet and I've picked it apart a little to learn a few words.)

The language thing isn't important for communication.  I just think it might be fun. 

Back when we saw each other all the time (we used to work at the same company) we only spoke English.  She speaks like a native California girl, so I had never heard Lao until one day when we were out at a park at lunch time and she got a call on her cell phone from her mom and she started speaking this weird language that I had never heard before, and it sounded very interesting.  To my ears, it sounded even more exotic even than Japanese or Chinese, both of which I hear occasionally.

She went to work for a different company shortly after that and I have only seen her again once recently.  But for the past few years, I've thought the language sounds very intriguing. 

As I said before, I've listened to some Thai music, I guess mostly because it's easier to find than Lao on the internet on sites like YouTube.  (Some of your members who think traditional culture should be saved might want to slap me, so don't tell them, but I'll admit to you that I've become kind of addicted to certain modern Thai pop music.) 

I'm somewhat accustomed to hearing the sound of Thai and I've looked up and listened to translations of some words and phrases and that's why I was wondering how similar Lao is to Thai.

How similar is Lao to Thai? Well, I'd say about 70-85% of it is the same. Lao has no R sound like Thai, the R sound is replaced by an L or an H depending on the word.

Thai has polite endings such as Krab and Kha, although Northern Thai uses the word "jao (เจ้า) just like Lao does.

Ever heard of the Isan language? It's the most spoken dialect in all of Thailand second to Central Thai. Isan is actually a dialect of Lao and not Thai.

The Isan language=Lao language.

Native speakers of Lao Isan in Thailand ~25 million

Native speakers of Lao in Laos ~3 million (only about half the population of Laos is ethnically Lao)

So there are more native Lao speakers in Thailand than there are in Laos. The city with the highest concentration of Lao speakers in the world is nowhere other than Bangkok (not Vientiane) due to economic migration.

As for your comment about music, it warrants a seperate music video thread which I will start for you.

Google translate has 100 percent of the Thai audio/voice pronunciations. Just learn Thai and then learn Lao afterwards. Most Laos can understand Thai. Also try thai-language.com as it has lots of resources and complete audio pronunciations as well. Lao is exponentially easier than Thai as the script has been simplified.

I speak both Thai and Lao and even I have trouble believing they are different languages, they just seem like dialects of each other.

Certain languages (such as Bavarian, Austrian German and German) that are even more different from each other than Thai and Lao are still considered the same language, so there is a sort of grey area here. Also the Lao alphabet has been modified and a number of the consonants have been removed for simplification of the script.

Before the Lao script was modified every Lao consonant had a Thai equivalent and they basically just looked like slightly different ways of writing the same symbol.

Even the now out of use Lanna script of Northern Thailand is more different from Central Thai than Lao is.

One could say that Thai and Lao are even more similar than Spanish and Italian are.

Despite their similarities, I'm glad they were split into 2 countries and are not one nation. Being part of Thailand would've meant the demise of the concept of a separate Lao nation and people, and they would've just disappeared as a separate people, similar to the Cham kingdom of Southern Vietnam, and the Mons of Thailand and Burma. Just erased off the map and no one cares about them anymore except for the occasional linguist or history enthusiast.