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Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria?
Reply #15 - 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 7:12am

Edward Snowden may never face trial like Julian Assange.

The countries granting them asylum obviously believe these criminals are an "asset" to them because they have information about the United States.

Ecuador and Russia wouldn't just let you and I walk into their country without going through the proper immigration or visa process.

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Reply #16 - 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 10:28am

Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 6:50am:

Some of you people are really clueless about Laos history. I didn't expect the admin to actually admit faults about the commie Lao gov't but I actually agree with her.
Laos doesn't have an army, it only has these commie soldiers who protect the corrupt commie gov't officials in case someone tries to assassinate them to take back Laos for the Lao people since Viets control Laos.

Laos doesn't care about the rest of the world, they don't care about human rights so they obviously won't care about what happens in Syria. I wish there was another civil war in Laos so that all the Lao people in the rest of the world could go home, I'm tired of living overseas!
The UK look like a bunch of pansies with no balls! All talk but can't walk the walk. Just like when they hesitated to stand up against Hitler. AND AGAIN the US has to step in and stand up for what's right. Shame on the rest of the world. UN has no balls either, just a bunch of paper pushers. China and Russia won't let any international intervention happen. Why is that? What interest do they have in Syria? It's always about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

I know why buk dum Obama wants congressional approval, cause he don't want to look like a war monger like the previous Bush's. He doesn't want to be remembered as that president who started wars unlike most of the other past presidents in the US.

Buk Snowden had choices, he made his, and he knew the repercussions. The people of Syria, women and children, didn't have a choice, they were murdered.
Snowden will have a trial in the courts of law and is innocent until proven guilty if he decides to come back to the US. The 1429 people killed in Syria don't have no choice but to lay in a grave now. I'd rather face American justice any day than be killed off by dictators.

There are other ways people can help Syria instead of sending military troops and adding to the blood shed.
They can send aid such as food, water, medical to the victims of war who didn't want to be a part of this power struggle. Many people already fled, just like Laos in 1975 during the Vietnam invasion.

No one wins in war, everyone loses something.

I'm with you on this one bro.Even though i live a good life
here in the USA .I want Laos to be free .Dam commies !
I want to retire in the place where i was born.

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Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria?
Reply #17 - 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 6:05pm

Most Americans consider Snowden to be a whistleblower and not a traitor. Also, how can you call him a criminal when he has not yet been charged with anything in the United States? Maybe you should question why a former military and CIA employee feels the needs to go abroad before exposing a illegal and unconstitutional program.

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Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria?
Reply #18 - 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 6:39pm

If you're wanted for questioning, and you don't turn yourself in to face the music then you're a criminal. He is still on their wanted list, and he knows that he would be charged if he returned to America.

Snowden isn't a traitor, but his job required that he can't expose sensitive information. You can't do that and say it's okay.

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Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria?
Reply #19 - 4^th Sep, 2013 at 10:35am

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 3^rd Sep, 2013 at 6:39pm:

I think he a big time traitor.Now i feel uncomfortable
talking dirty on the phone Grin

Darn NSA ease dropping on
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Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria?
Reply #20 - 4^th Sep, 2013 at 11:51am

In America, you talk bad about the gov't on the phone and internet, you sue for breach of privacy.

In Laos, you talk bad about the gov't in the media, you get taken away to be "re-educated".

This is why Snowden is still alive. The US revoked his passport so he is no longer "American". This means that he is eligible for a drone strike, haha!

Okay back to the topic, what do you guys think will happen in Syria with the US planning an imminent attack of some sort. I hear Sept. 9th is the deadline, so close to the 9/11 date, hmmm. Why do bad things always happen around this time frame? I'll let the conspiracy theorist answer that one.

I predict cruise missiles to be launched, followed by some secret drone missions taking out key targets (because the US cannot have troops set foot on the ground or else it would be an act of war), then followed by the US supporting the rebels with weapons and supplies. The US says they don't want to intervene in the civil war but that is a lie. They already support the rebels. Russia and China support Assad. Everyone has their "interest" at stake.

I hope we see the "evidence" soon and the UN report but it's a little too late when so many people have already died. It really makes me think about the quote "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing".

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ba dac God Member Offline I love Laos! Posts: 704 pakse Gender: Awards: 2	Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria? Reply #21 - 4^th Sep, 2013 at 12:28pm I think the end is near for assad.He gonna end up like saddam.His own people gonna hang him.
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peterpan God Member Offline I love Laos! Posts: 972 Gender: Awards: 2	Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria? Reply #22 - 4^th Sep, 2013 at 12:30pm ba dac wrote on 4^th Sep, 2013 at 12:28pm: I think the end is near for assad.He gonna end up like saddam.His own people gonna hang him. I think his family will have a wonderful life in Russia
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Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria?
Reply #23 - 4^th Sep, 2013 at 5:23pm

Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 4^th Sep, 2013 at 11:51am:

In America, you talk bad about the gov't on the phone and internet, you sue for breach of privacy.

In Laos, you talk bad about the gov't in the media, you get taken away to be "re-educated".

Snowden worked for the CIA and NSA. By working for them, he signed an agreement to not disclose confidential information and he broke it, therefore putting himself in hot water with the authorities.

The average person such as you and I talking negative about the American government on the phone and internet is a different thing altogether. That doesn't hurt the government because it's just our opinion and nothing is based on confidential information.

As for the situation in Laos, it's true that you get taken away without trace, and what happens to you is anyone's guess. You're either locked away, or you're killed.

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Bao Evil Newbie to Lao Pride Offline I love Laos! Posts: 33 USA Gender: Awards: 1	Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria? Reply #24 - 5^th Sep, 2013 at 1:59am I am against war because of killing. Laos can send aids and hope for the best in Syria. To me, both parties involved are evils.
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Reply #25 - 5^th Sep, 2013 at 8:34am

My point is that in America, no one is above the law, not even the government. When the government breaks the law, they can get punished and sued also.
In Laos, it is only a one way street.
If Snowden didn't sign disclosure agreements, then he would have been fine as a whistle blower but he signed his life away, that's why he's in exile now.

I don't think anything will change after this because everyone already knew the US gov't was doing this kind of thing. Look at area 51. The general public believes that if it protects national interest then it's okay, even though it's unconstitutional.
It's actually kind of ironic when you think about it. US gov't breaks it's own laws to prevent terrorism and other dangers, so they are committing a crime to prevent a worse crime from happening.
Snowden is breaking the law to try and prevent a greater crime from happening (in his view), the unlawful spying and intelligence gathering by the US gov't. So who is right and who is wrong? Looks to me like two wrongs don't make a right.

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Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria?
Reply #26 - 5^th Sep, 2013 at 9:36am

I guess in America even if you did break the law, they give you a chance to clear your name through the courts, and you are allowed to have a lawyer. Your families can still visit you while you're in custody.

In Laos, if you do something or say something that presents a danger to the security of the country, good luck because you're pretty much on your own. The authorities can come over to knock on your door at night and remove you. In other words, forced disappearance. This is a common practice in Laos.

Snowden would still have been in trouble even if he didn't sign anything. Assange didn't sign anything, he is not even a US citizen yet he is still regarded as a fugitive who is wanted by the US. The fact that these people are compromising the American national security makes them a clear threat to the US government.

The US government isn't really breaking any law when you think about it, most governments in other western countries generally back their decisions, so whenever they go to war they are not doing it alone.

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Buk Hoo Kee Senior Member Offline Posts: 358 Laos Gender: Age: 32 Awards: 2	Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria? Reply #27 - 5^th Sep, 2013 at 10:25am Actually admin, they are breaking the law. It's in the privacy act, that's why the US gov't is being taken to court and sued by class action law suit.
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Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria?
Reply #28 - 5^th Sep, 2013 at 11:46am

I don't think it matters, they'll go to Syria to launch military attack if they have to, and they have the full support of other western governments so that really says a lot.

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Re: Should Lao intervene in Syria?
Reply #29 - 7^th Sep, 2013 at 7:42am

The US breaking its own laws by spying and invading people's privacy (including other countries) is hypocritical. They have lost credibility with the American people and the world.
When you lose credibility, other leaders of the world start to question your judgement. Look at Iraq, where are the weapons of mass destruction, where is the proof? They were wrong about Iraq, so they can be wrong about Syria. Therefore what is their real motive then?
The UK will not even support them now because they voted it down. Even France is waiting on UN findings first now instead of taking the word of the US.
Yes, the US will still attack Syria with or without any support, but that is the problem. The gov't is supposed to be the voice of the people, not above the people. If the people don't want war, it's not even their choice anymore.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Do you know why Americans still believe in being able to carry guns and "bearing arms". It is because after the civil war they realized that the gov't has too much power. So if need be, they have the right to bear arms in case the gov't gets out of hand and tries to take away their freedoms. Research it, the 2nd amendment. There is a reason it's the 2nd amendment on the US constitution.

We will find out on Tuesday, not if the US will attack Syria, but how they will do it. No doubt there is going to be action. I personally support the action to stand up against the use of chemical weapons. I support military action to prevent a remake of Hitler.

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