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Reply #15 - 5th Mar, 2011 at 7:22am
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 5th Mar, 2011 at 5:16am:
How do you know about the cost for a prostitute in New Zealand, and that most are Thai. Have you hired one in the past?

Brothels are technically illegal in Laos, but you can get away with it like most things in a corrupted society. The pimps give "tea money" to the police.

The cost in Laos has been discussed on the following thread:

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Off course I've been with some (White, not Thai), not because I can't get it for free but because I simply need the relief. I don't just scribble to kill time you know? You sound surprised. I read in a prior post that Lao men are just as notorious. I hope you are old enough to read this type of adult content. You look quite young.

In response to how do I "know" the statistics regarding the NZ sex industry:  I "know" because everyone else "knows" too. OK, maybe I exaggerated that 90%, but only by just a wee bit, because they are up there: in the top tiers. "Word-of-mouth" works the same way that gossip does in Laos. Before you know it the whole village knows your business. These girls are frequented by many for their "submissiveness" and willingness to do"anything and everything". They will even let you brandish your "sword" in front of their faces; but only if your bill tallies up. I am not here to talk shit about Thai people by the way because this is a Lao website - lets keep it that way. But since you asked, you got your answer.
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Reply #16 - 5th Mar, 2011 at 10:32am
 
I thought that most Lao expatriates don't pay for sex because sex workers are scarce in western countries. But anyway, you always have to be careful because they've been with literally hundreds of customers.
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Reply #17 - 5th Mar, 2011 at 11:05am
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 5th Mar, 2011 at 10:32am:
I thought that most Lao expatriates don't pay for sex because sex workers are scarce in western countries. But anyway, you always have to be careful because they've been with literally hundreds of customers.


Off course you use condoms. That goes without saying. "Scarce"? I don't know where you got that notion from. Have you not heard of Amsterdam? The sex industry is big business. You only have to look across the river to see the dividends. What do you think the Expatriates do when they go back home to Laos? Men are what we are:____(insert your preferred curse in the space provided). They prefer Lao girls too because they don't shave. LOL!
I remember when they legalized prostitution in NZ - circa 2004 - half the politicians were jumping up and down, offering hi-fives all around. You would have thought that they had ousted the then current government. The main reason why they signed the bill was to reduce crime on woman, especially rape. NZ is getting REAL soft now. They even have a "anti-smacking" law. If you "smack" a child, you go to jail. But that's a whole different topic all in itself.
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Reply #18 - 5th Mar, 2011 at 7:21pm
 
Even with protection, you still have to be careful. Legalizing prostitution reduces rape is abit silly. Anyone can get raped while walking on the streets. The offender can now make excuses, "I thought she was a prostitute".

Do you even go to jail for light smacking in New Zealand?
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Reply #19 - 5th Mar, 2011 at 8:57pm
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 5th Mar, 2011 at 7:21pm:
Even with protection, you still have to be careful. Legalizing prostitution reduces rape is abit silly. Anyone can get raped while walking on the streets. The offender can now make excuses, "I thought she was a prostitute".

Do you even go to jail for light smacking in New Zealand?


Is a smack not as "light" as discipline gets? I have read in the papers where some parents have had the misfortune of spending time behind bars, simply because they didn't take the law seriously. If caught heavy-handed, you will definitely be pleading your case inside the family court room. For me, personally, I think that it should be the parents' right to discipline their child how they want. As long as the kid learns the lesson (and doesn't die) then I believe the positives out weigh the negative. I remember when I was young, I used to get disciplined with that little wooden paddle they use to beat the rice. Sometimes the rice had already dried up and clung onto it. Akin to getting hit with a piece of timber where the stray nails protrude. Stung for a whole month!

You're right: anyone can get raped. But with the legalization of prostitution, it makes it "easier" for sexually frustrated men to get that relief. " 'I thought she was a prostitute' " is no-where near a good enough excuse. Not paying for any service is a criminal offense in anyone's language. By the way, even prostitutes can claim ACC (Accident Compensation Corporation) as long as they pay taxes. For instance, if, say, they turned up to work one day and had an "accident". Maybe while playing intimate games, someones joystick went in too deep which resulted in a sore throat and her unable to perform at the level expected. She can apply for ACC. (They pay 80% of her wages while the employer pays the remaining 20%). She can still work under-the-table though. Just minus the fellatio.

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Reply #20 - 5th Mar, 2011 at 9:05pm
 
How's the professional sports scene in Laos?
Do they have any sports competitions? Because I personally love sports, I just wondered what my fellow kinsman do for leisure. I think that would be the way to go in terms of investment. A PRO' sports team.
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Reply #21 - 5th Mar, 2011 at 10:25pm
 
I opened a business in Laos and would recommend anyone else to do the same.  However, don't be too convinced by the government's claim of 'One-stop shop for foreign investment'.  It took me over a year and more than 100 'stops' to get my business fully registered and licensed.  Anyway, I like the sound of your proposed project (I just built a rock garden myself around our fish pond and waterfall),  Good luck!

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Reply #23 - 5th Mar, 2011 at 10:57pm
 
I'm not a sports person but soccer (football) is popular in Laos.

So NZ prostitutes get covered from work accident because it's a legitimate job.

Extensive smacking can cause injury. I don't mind light smacking, but sometimes parents get really angry and they go overboard with it, i.e. whack their children with the full force of their hands or object.

I guess parents can get away with it if they smack their child at home and there's no serious injury. The authorities will never know. But if the child require hospital treatment, then they're in trouble.
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Reply #24 - 6th Mar, 2011 at 3:02am
 
When it come to business sadly Laos still rank 171 out of 187. So open business in Laos might not be that simple. Singapore rank number one. As we can see Singaporean GDP is $195 billion and per capita income per year is $43,000.
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I opened a business in Laos and would recommend anyone else to do the same.  However, don't be too convinced by the government's claim of 'One-stop shop for foreign investment'.  It took me over a year and more than 100 'stops' to get my business fully registered and licensed.  Anyway, I like the sound of your proposed project (I just built a rock garden myself around our fish pond and waterfall),  Good luck!

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Reply #25 - 6th Mar, 2011 at 4:45am
 
So, all-in-all did you encounter anything that you think will deter potential small-time investers? Any inside-info' that you can divulge with us regarding their beviour and practises? Do I have to always be on the lookout?

Sounds like you stay in Laos andnot in the USA.
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Reply #26 - 6th Mar, 2011 at 9:06pm
 
Larb Dip wrote on 6th Mar, 2011 at 4:45am:
So, all-in-all did you encounter anything that you think will deter potential small-time investers? Any inside-info' that you can divulge with us regarding their beviour and practises? Do I have to always be on the lookout?

Sounds like you stay in Laos andnot in the USA.


Yes, I live in a rural area outside Vientiane and opened a resort and ecolodge here a few years ago. 

There is nothing to deter potential investors as long as they are prepared for licenses and permissions to take a long time to be processed.

This long wait does not mean you cannot operate your business.  For example: we needed permission to start construction on our lodges. However, we could not get the necessary licenses and permissions until we had built the lodges, which were then inspected by the relevant govt. departments who then gave us permission to build them.

That's kind of the way it works here.... Smiley

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So, all-in-all did you encounter anything that you think will deter potential small-time investers? Any inside-info' that you can divulge with us regarding their beviour and practises? Do I have to always be on the lookout?

Sounds like you stay in Laos andnot in the USA.


Yes, I live in a rural area outside Vientiane and opened a resort and ecolodge here a few years ago.  

There is nothing to deter potential investors as long as they are prepared for licenses and permissions to take a long time to be processed.

This long wait does not mean you cannot operate your business.  For example: we needed permission to start construction on our lodges. However, we could not get the necessary licenses and permissions until we had built the lodges, which were then inspected by the relevant govt. departments who then gave us permission to build them.

That's kind of the way it works here.... Smiley

They key is not to be impatient and to retain a light touch and a sense of humour.





Are you Lao, or are you white? (Just curious).

Are you saying that it is worth investing in Laos? If I did invest, I wouldn't want to be kept on a leash. I wouldn't want corrupt officials yanking my collar in one hand and with the other, frisking my pockets - so to speak. Come across anything of this nature?

Also, how's the atmosphere over there? How do the locals feel in regards to all this foreign investment? (Be honest. Please).
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I'm British (yes white thanks for asking???).  I've been in Laos for 20 years with my Lao wife and two teenage sons. 

There is a Lao way of doing things regarding business and you just have to fall in with that.  Dealing with officials can be frustrating at first, but you need to develop a relaxed attitude to them.  I have had a lot of experience with Lao officials, but the only 'corruption' I have encountered is of a very mild kind.  For a typical example, an official might indicate to you, "We can process this license application for you in about two or three weeks.  However, if you want it quickly you could pay US$10 and we could have it ready for you tomorrow afternoon.  That kind of thing.  I've usually waited the extra time except when things were really urgent.

Another example of 'mild corruption' is when we were building and opening our resort, we had countless visits from govt. officials from all levels and departments for various registration processes and it was only polite and the accepted 'norm' to provide them with lunch.  Not to have done so would have seemed impolite.  Remember these officials make only a tiny monthly salary.

If you can't put up with this kind of thing, then Laos may not be the place for you to invest in.  But good luck anyway!.....

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Reply #29 - 7th Mar, 2011 at 6:27am
 
Thank for sharing your business experiences in Laos. Its very helpful.
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I'm British (yes white thanks for asking???).  I've been in Laos for 20 years with my Lao wife and two teenage sons.  

There is a Lao way of doing things regarding business and you just have to fall in with that.  Dealing with officials can be frustrating at first, but you need to develop a relaxed attitude to them.  I have had a lot of experience with Lao officials, but the only 'corruption' I have encountered is of a very mild kind.  For a typical example, an official might indicate to you, "We can process this license application for you in about two or three weeks.  However, if you want it quickly you could pay US$10 and we could have it ready for you tomorrow afternoon.  That kind of thing.  I've usually waited the extra time except when things were really urgent.

Another example of 'mild corruption' is when we were building and opening our resort, we had countless visits from govt. officials from all levels and departments for various registration processes and it was only polite and the accepted 'norm' to provide them with lunch.  Not to have done so would have seemed impolite.  Remember these officials make only a tiny monthly salary.

If you can't put up with this kind of thing, then Laos may not be the place for you to invest in.  But good luck anyway!.....

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