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Reply #15 - 9th Aug, 2010 at 2:12pm
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 9th Aug, 2010 at 7:11am:
Good luck to both the yellow and red shirts in the next election. I have many relatives in both Bangkok and Issan so I wish them all the best.

I hope Laos will have an election in the future. So people can vote and elect their own government. Just like Lao in Issan.
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Re: What do you think about Lao people in Issan?
Reply #16 - 9th Aug, 2010 at 11:12pm
 
If Laos have an election in the future, I don't want voting to be compulsory because I don't want to vote.

This may seem funny but there are Lao people who do not even know the name of our current President and Prime Minister. This is because we only see them in the media once in a while, and people can't get involved in politics.
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Reply #17 - 10th Aug, 2010 at 12:59am
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 9th Aug, 2010 at 11:12pm:
If Laos have an election in the future, I don't want voting to be compulsory because I don't want to vote.

This may seem funny but there are Lao people who do not even know the name of our current President and Prime Minister.
This is because we only see them in the
media once in a while, and people can't
get involved in politics.

If you can vote. You can elect new government. If current one is doing a bad
job, but same in the US. Not everbody
vote, about 35% of the people don't, some
don't care about politics, especially young
people. They worry more about fun and
partying. Lao people never has a to chance vote. Our great country is alway under control of foreign power.
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Reply #18 - 10th Aug, 2010 at 2:45am
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 9th Aug, 2010 at 11:12pm:
If Laos have an election in the future, I don't want voting to be compulsory because I don't want to vote.

This may seem funny but there are Lao people who do not even know the name of our current President and Prime Minister. This is because we only see them in the media once in a while, and people can't get involved in politics.

You're right. Most of the people don't care about politics. They worry more about putting food on the table, jobs and opportunity.
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Reply #19 - 10th Aug, 2010 at 10:12am
 
Since I've been around a while, after bombs, bullets, leaky boat, financial crisis and a lot of how great our country and people is, we must this and we must that, I can only speak for my feeling:
1.Ask North Vietnamese for help and want them get out later ? you have a read of their history and check their teritory 300 years ago and now, you will sincerely and truely love Thai king, because they've treat you guys so well and at least some of you're rich. Oh also check how the few millions that they claim they're Vietnamese and infact they are Cambodians.
2. Me no die for any country or people, all bloody lies and damn lies, if U don't like it, get out and pick another country to live in, then come back with a few dollars, they will treat you better that their own parents or leaders, you're not die for your country or people, you're manupilated to die for the cause for them to stay in power and make money.
3. You only have 1 live, think of your poor parents before you sacrify yourself for the great country of yours, I know 1 thing for sure, no one give a damn about your parents, so use your only life wisely.
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Reply #20 - 10th Aug, 2010 at 11:04pm
 
Vietnam was ask to help, but not to colonize and trying to take over Cambodian and Laos. That is what happen when you make a deal with a devil. Now it's time for them to get out of Laos. UN will not let them take over Laos that easily  its not that simple.


macro wrote on 10th Aug, 2010 at 10:12am:
Since I've been around a while, after bombs, bullets, leaky boat, financial crisis and a lot of how great our country and people is, we must this and we must that, I can only speak for my feeling:
1.Ask North Vietnamese for help and want them get out later ? you have a read of their history and check their teritory 300 years ago and now, you will sincerely and truely love Thai king, because they've treat you guys so well and at least some of you're rich. Oh also check how the few millions that they claim they're Vietnamese and infact they are Cambodians.
2. Me no die for any country or people, all bloody lies and darn lies, if U don't like it, get out and pick another country to live in, then come back with a few dollars, they will treat you better that their own parents or leaders, you're not die for your country or people, you're manupilated to die for the cause for them to stay in power and make money.
3. You only have 1 live, think of your poor parents before you sacrify yourself for the great country of yours, I know 1 thing for sure, no one give a darn about your parents, so use your only life wisely.

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Reply #21 - 27th Sep, 2010 at 1:07am
 
I haven't been to Issan but I have read some books by Burdett and Moore about the Issan girls in Thailand.  According to them most of the prostitutes in Thailand are from Issan.  Is that true. They say the girls are quite heroic the way they take care of their families who are very poor by taking jobs in the sex trade in Thailand.  I wonder is it true what they say or not.  You I am sure are in a much better position than I to know.
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Reply #22 - 27th Sep, 2010 at 3:03pm
 
casey69 wrote on 27th Sep, 2010 at 1:07am:
I haven't been to Issan but I have read some books by Burdett and Moore about the Issan girls in Thailand.  According to them most of the prostitutes in Thailand are from Issan.  Is that true. They say the girls are quite heroic the way they take care of their families who are very poor by taking jobs in the sex trade in Thailand.  I wonder is it true what they say or not.  You I am sure are in a much better position than I to know.


That true many Issan are poor, work as low paying jobs and as sex worker in Bangkok. Issan is the least developing region in Thailand. Human nature people have to do whatever to survive. when there is less job and opportunity even working in sex industry.
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Reply #23 - 21st Oct, 2010 at 7:22am
 
I have visited both Laos and Issan and there are obvious similarities due to your common histories but Issan was successfullyincorporated into the Thai state during the Vietnam War period. Many Issan are ignorant that they even have a Lao heritage and have no inclination to stop being Thai. Certainly many Esarn would like more influence within the Thai State but there is little pan-Lao enthusiasm. Rather than hope for their return to Laos why not go beyond lao nationalism and work for a pan-Tai confederation bringing all the Tai peoples together in the region under a representative federal government?

Just a thought as you have so much in common. Your differences are exaggerated by your rulers who have powerful vested interests in the status quo.
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Reply #24 - 24th Dec, 2010 at 10:39pm
 
llX wrote on 7th Aug, 2010 at 11:33am:
Have you been to Issan, have friends or relative there? There are over 22 million Lao people living in Issan, but only 6 million in Laos.


The government in Laos can't even making the 6m of people have a better life what do you think another 22M will do to them......
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Reply #25 - 25th Dec, 2010 at 12:17am
 
As a united Laotian 22 million Lao Isan can help build Laos.  

Tee wrote on 24th Dec, 2010 at 10:39pm:
llX wrote on 7th Aug, 2010 at 11:33am:
Have you been to Issan, have friends or relative there? There are over 22 million Lao people living in Issan, but only 6 million in Laos.


The government in Laos can't even making the 6m of people have a better life what do you think another 22M will do to them......

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Re: What do you think about Lao people in Issan?
Reply #26 - 25th Dec, 2010 at 5:32am
 
Why we always need other to help us...and we can never put our head together to help ourself.
Laos always been rescued by other in the past. looking back through the history! We can never help our self ..I guess we going to relies and depend on other to help us for ever....
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Reply #27 - 25th Dec, 2010 at 8:02am
 
Tee wrote on 25th Dec, 2010 at 5:32am:
Why we always need other to help us...and we can never put our head together to help ourself.
Laos always been rescued by other in the past. looking back through the history! We can never help our self ..I guess we going to relies and depend on other to help us for ever....  


In the past Laos was invaded and exploit by foreigner power. Majority of Issan is ethnic Lao. About 20 million. Issan was Laos territory. United we stand divided we fall. Laos and Issan was divided by the French and Siam.
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Re: What do you think about Lao people in Issan?
Reply #28 - 27th Mar, 2011 at 3:08am
 
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 8th Aug, 2010 at 10:52pm:
It's not that Vietnam doesn't want Laos to unite with Issan. Issan doesn't want to unite with Laos themselves.

I don't see any people living in Issan waving the Lao flag around. They love their King, and everytime they visit Laos they are wearing "I love Thailand" t-shirts or they have an emblem in honor to the King of Thailand. They don't want anything to do with Laos.


THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT! LAO IS LAOS; ISAAN IS THAILAND! WE CAN NEVER GO BACK TO THE OLD DAYS! LETS MOVE ON! THEY CAN WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVES, WHILE WE CAN PUT ALL OUR ENERGY INTO IMPROVING OUR BELOVED LAOS! Smiley
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Lao people in Issan?
Reply #29 - 2nd Apr, 2011 at 10:48am
 
I am a bit confused about the Nong Khai / Vientienne split.

Also confused why 2 of the 3 ancient drums are in Thailand and 1 in Laos.

Also confused as to the Issues of Chieng Saen.

also, confused about Easarn as Easarn is Laos and Khmer (Cambodian).



llX wrote on 9th Aug, 2010 at 2:38am:
Admin Saovaluck wrote on 8th Aug, 2010 at 10:52pm:
It's not that Vietnam doesn't want Laos to unite with Issan. Issan doesn't want to unite with Laos themselves.

I don't see any people living in Issan waving the Lao flag around. They love their King, and everytime they visit Laos they are wearing "I love Thailand" t-shirts or they have an emblem in honor to the King of Thailand. They don't want anything to do with Laos.


Most do love the king but not everybody, that is why red shirt from Issan protest. They waving former PM Thaksin picture and T-shirt because he help Lao people in Issan. They love Thaksin and want him to come back. Rich in Bangkok discriminate against Lao people in Issan. That how its in the world not just in Thailand, rich look down on poor. If talk bad about Thai King they will jail you up to 15 year. Waving Laos flag around in Thailand probably get you kill. Thai government don't like Socialist. Nothing personal just politics. Lao were not allow to speak or write in Laos language. Thailification and brainwashing. If I was brainwash like that all my life. I probably love Thai king and wave Thai flag too.

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