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Reply #45 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 12:06am

If you're going for that 50 year option, then it WOULD be wise to erect the house on piles, which could conveniently be severed with a chainsaw for immediate relocation when the innevetible happens.

Do they have trade schools in Laos? This just hit me, but I'm interseted in this kind of bussiness. Last I heard, the majority of 'carpenters' in Laos were fron Vietnam. Is that true or what?

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Reply #46 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 12:13am

Larb Dip wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 12:06am:

When a house built on 'piles' (large wooden posts) is relocated, they don't sever the post with a saw. The posts are set into individual concrete bases and they just dig out the entire post including the cement base.

There is a technical college in Vientiane which teaches trade skills, but now there are plans to build a huge residential trade school in our district (Saythany) of Vientiane which will teach bricklaying, carpentry, electrical wiring, plumbing, etc.

They are expecting to cater for several thousand students.

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Reply #47 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 1:12am

There is technical school in Laos. My uncle is a carpenter and went there for about two year. Yes many carpenter in Laos are Vietnamese. They are highly skilled. And there's probably plenty of illegal Viet, Chinese worker in Laos.
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Reply #48 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 1:25am

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Maybe that's how they do in Laos. Maybe they have plenty of time up their sleeves. Over here - most of the time - they just do as I have already mentioned. The existing piles are then fused on to the new with a metal brace (I won't get into any jargon). This only happens when the situation is urgent or when the builder is lazy. 'Time is money', they say.

Sounds good. Maybe I could set something up in Laos and hire some. That could be their ticket out of Laos if they want to go and live abroad. It just depends on the standards that are being taught. Lets hope that it IS to an international standard.

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PEACE God Member Offline Posts: 719 DIN FAR Gender: Age: 53	Re: Dudes, WE CAN GO HOME! Reply #49 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 2:13am Thanks for the useful info. everyone and this 50 years lease option. You pay the land owner, let's say $25k for a land and I can do whatever I want for up to 50 years on that land? So it is like buying the land and I have to give up the land to the owner 50 years from now. Sounds like a very good option .
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Reply #50 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 3:10am

In the U.S it's the same time is money. They can build you a house 4 room, 2 bathroom, 3 car garage in three month.
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Reply #51 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 3:13am

50 year lease. In other word you can live there for the rest of your life, but you don't get the tittle. Not a bad deal, $25k might seem too high. Maybe it's cheaper then that to lease.
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PEACE wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 2:13am:

Thanks for the useful info. everyone and this 50 years lease option. You pay the land owner, let's say $25k for a land and I can do whatever I want for up to 50 years on that land? So it is like buying the land and I have to give up the land to the owner 50 years from now. Sounds like a very good option Cool

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Reply #52 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 2:02pm

This 50 year 'lease' is month to month payment?

llX wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 3:13am:

50 year lease. In other word you can live there for the rest of your life, but you just don't get land tittle. Not a bad deal, $25 might seem too high. Maybe it's cheaper then that to lease.
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Reply #53 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 2:19pm

PEACE wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 2:02pm:

This 50 year 'lease' is month to month payment?

llX wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 3:13am:

50 year lease. In other word you can live there for the rest of your life, but you just don't get land tittle. Not a bad deal, $25 might seem too high. Maybe it's cheaper then that to lease.
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PEACE wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 2:13am:

That's between you and the owner of the land. All options are possible:

Pay monthly

Pay yearly

Pay total for the 10, 20, 30, 40 or 50 years.

I would think most owners would prefer the last option of a big, one-time lump sum so you can probably bring down the price with that option.

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Larb Dip God Member Offline Lao Pride, and No. 1 Lao Pride Admin' fan from NZ! Posts: 1383 Hadxaifong, Vientiane Gender: Age: 37 Awards: 1	Re: Dudes, WE CAN GO HOME! Reply #54 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 4:10pm That will co$t what......US$100,000? 50 years is a bloody long time!
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Reply #56 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 10:57pm

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That will co$t what......US$100,000? 50 years is a bloody long time!

I can make no sense of either the question or the statement in your post.

Why not?

50 years seems like aeons (from a 'young' guy's perspective). It would probably co$t more than it would for you to ercert a house, right?

When I sign the contract, can I build whatever I want to on the land? How about fencing it off?

Are the land owners going to pop in every 6 months for a snoop like annoying landlords in the West?

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Reply #57 - 28^th Apr, 2011 at 11:53pm

Larb Dip wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 10:57pm:

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Larb Dip wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 4:10pm:

That will co$t what......US$100,000? 50 years is a bloody long time!

I can make no sense of either the question or the statement in your post.

The 50 years thing is merely a convenient way of getting around the fact that foreigners can't buy and 'own' land, so it doesn't matter that it's a long time.

In fact, if you could get a 70 year lease, it would be even better because after 50 years you could still sell the remaining 20 years of the lease.

Of course you can build a fence around the land. The point is when you draw up the contract with the owner, you and he can put in whatever conditions you want and can agree on. Put it all down on paper, have it signed and stamped by the Village Chief, take it to the Ministry of Justice and have it notarised in the Notary Office.

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Reply #58 - 29^th Apr, 2011 at 3:45am

(1) Can your uncle build a house/business building from beginning to end?
(2) It seems all new houses exterior are made with stucco and not bricks and the reason is probably brick unavailability in Vientiane?
(3) Would you happen to have pictures of some of his work?

llX wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 3:52pm:

My uncle in Vientiane is a carpenter, house builder. When I need to build one I just ask him. I also has education background in house building, but it's not what I do for living. I can't just build a house because not enough experiences, but I know how the process work. About two year back my uncle ask us if we want to buy neighbor land for $6,000. Now its probably cost more.
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Reply #59 - 11^th Aug, 2011 at 10:23pm

I just found this forum, and its super interesting. I totally agree Laos is a great country!

The fun thing is that I am a dutch architect that is now building 2 expat houses in vientiane, but then in a hypermodern europian style with a mix of Laosian influance. The nice thing is that they also can make it!

If you have any questions about building there and prices for the land, just ask me. We are building there in a combination with an investor and architect from Laos.

check our website for pictures. its the 2 in 1 villa project.

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