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Reply #45 - 26th Apr, 2011 at 10:57pm
 
llX wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 4:45am:
You are pretty much screw when you got criminals record.

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PEACE wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 3:13am:
The problem in the US is that we have too much freedom and highly hollywood sensationalization with violence from entertainment industry (movies/music/games) and kids tend to act as what they see and hear and not understanding realiity vs. fantasy.  
 
Larb Dip wrote on 25th Apr, 2011 at 8:56am:
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Larb Dip wrote on 25th Apr, 2011 at 6:52am:
How IS the gang situation in Laos? What names do they go by? Are they conspicuous?


Why do you assume such things exist here?  Do you see gang culture as a naturally-occurring phenomenon in society?  

Teenage gang culture is not a feature of Lao society thankfully.

However, I have met several Lao returnees who have teenage sons in the U.S. who are members of violent gangs - something those parents regret tremendously and wonder if it might have been better for them to have stayed in Laos and brought up their kids here.

I also see many young people of Lao descent, but brought up in the US, who visit here and display manners, attitude and unjustified overconfidence, aggression and self-promotion which is totally alien to the Lao way of behaving.

Hopefully, you are not one of those.


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I didn't assume anything, mate. In the quote it actually says:

"Speaking of guns, last year a beautiful 19-year-old girl who lives in my area
got shot in the head by a group of gangs
. It's a sad story, they said that her face was unrecognisable from the impact of the bullet".

Didn't you read that?

I have also heard of alot of Lao children in Ausrtalia, who are also in gangs. I just had a relative come over for a holiday, and he says some Lao gangs even fight it out against each other. There was a slaying recently between the two sets. You're right, all this sggression is very uncharacteristic of the relaxed Lao modus operandi. That's definitely not how I was raised.

I'm not a 'gangster'. But I won't lie, there were times in my youth when I did puff my chest out and contort my countenance into an intimidating manner. Something I'm not proud of. If anything, I think it's just part of growing up. I have now matured into a man and it always brings a smile to my face when I reminisce about such foolery! I think it's best to just let the young ones be. It's all those hormones cracking off that brings out that persona, right?

Smiley






If you do have a criminal record, then your life is pretty much over. You won't get any REAL jobs unless you know the employer.
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Reply #46 - 26th Apr, 2011 at 11:04pm
 
llX wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 12:17am:
Some of those rapper are gangster. There's gang in Minnesota, but where I live there're none. I live in a small suburban city. There used to be gang fighting and shooting, but now it seem quite and getting better. People grow up and police also crackdown on gang activity.
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llX wrote on 25th Apr, 2011 at 1:36am:
Laotian gang are pretty crazy too. There's 140 different Asian gang in California. California is gang capitals of the U.S.
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PEACE wrote on 24th Apr, 2011 at 12:30pm:
I've heard that gang activities from Laotian kids in California (Fresno I think) are well organized.



I saw a few lao boys rapping on youtube. They look like gangsters. Any Lao gangs where you stay?



The first time I EVER saw anything pertaining to Lao people on the t.v., was some guy who shot a McDonalds employee in the States. It was on America's Most Wanted. I have since seen numerous Lao "gangsters's" mugshots with bounties on their heads WANTED on that program. I actually thought it was 'cool'. No bs. Now that I'm older, it's not really as cool as I thought.
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Reply #47 - 26th Apr, 2011 at 11:43pm
 
That's how the sysytem work. With felony criminals record you can't get a good jobs, rent or votes. So to make a living they has to deal drugs or do whatever to survive. They has to eat and feed their family. "Stupid law."
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Larb Dip wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 10:57pm:
llX wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 4:45am:
You are pretty much screw when you got criminals record.

Smiley

PEACE wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 3:13am:
The problem in the US is that we have too much freedom and highly hollywood sensationalization with violence from entertainment industry (movies/music/games) and kids tend to act as what they see and hear and not understanding realiity vs. fantasy.  
 
Larb Dip wrote on 25th Apr, 2011 at 8:56am:
Quote:
Larb Dip wrote on 25th Apr, 2011 at 6:52am:
How IS the gang situation in Laos? What names do they go by? Are they conspicuous?


Why do you assume such things exist here?  Do you see gang culture as a naturally-occurring phenomenon in society?  

Teenage gang culture is not a feature of Lao society thankfully.

However, I have met several Lao returnees who have teenage sons in the U.S. who are members of violent gangs - something those parents regret tremendously and wonder if it might have been better for them to have stayed in Laos and brought up their kids here.

I also see many young people of Lao descent, but brought up in the US, who visit here and display manners, attitude and unjustified overconfidence, aggression and self-promotion which is totally alien to the Lao way of behaving.

Hopefully, you are not one of those.


Old Man


I didn't assume anything, mate. In the quote it actually says:

"Speaking of guns, last year a beautiful 19-year-old girl who lives in my area
got shot in the head by a group of gangs
. It's a sad story, they said that her face was unrecognisable from the impact of the bullet".

Didn't you read that?

I have also heard of alot of Lao children in Ausrtalia, who are also in gangs. I just had a relative come over for a holiday, and he says some Lao gangs even fight it out against each other. There was a slaying recently between the two sets. You're right, all this sggression is very uncharacteristic of the relaxed Lao modus operandi. That's definitely not how I was raised.

I'm not a 'gangster'. But I won't lie, there were times in my youth when I did puff my chest out and contort my countenance into an intimidating manner. Something I'm not proud of. If anything, I think it's just part of growing up. I have now matured into a man and it always brings a smile to my face when I reminisce about such foolery! I think it's best to just let the young ones be. It's all those hormones cracking off that brings out that persona, right?

Smiley






If you do have a criminal record, then your life is pretty much over. You won't get any REAL jobs unless you know the employer.

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Reply #48 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 12:12am
 
llX wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 11:43pm:
That's how the sysytem work. With felony criminals record you can't get a good jobs, rent or votes. So to make a living they has to deal drugs or do whatever to survive. They has to eat and feed their family. "Stupid law."
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Larb Dip wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 10:57pm:
llX wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 4:45am:
You are pretty much screw when you got criminals record.

Smiley

PEACE wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 3:13am:
The problem in the US is that we have too much freedom and highly hollywood sensationalization with violence from entertainment industry (movies/music/games) and kids tend to act as what they see and hear and not understanding realiity vs. fantasy.  
 
Larb Dip wrote on 25th Apr, 2011 at 8:56am:
Quote:
Larb Dip wrote on 25th Apr, 2011 at 6:52am:
How IS the gang situation in Laos? What names do they go by? Are they conspicuous?


Why do you assume such things exist here?  Do you see gang culture as a naturally-occurring phenomenon in society?  

Teenage gang culture is not a feature of Lao society thankfully.

However, I have met several Lao returnees who have teenage sons in the U.S. who are members of violent gangs - something those parents regret tremendously and wonder if it might have been better for them to have stayed in Laos and brought up their kids here.

I also see many young people of Lao descent, but brought up in the US, who visit here and display manners, attitude and unjustified overconfidence, aggression and self-promotion which is totally alien to the Lao way of behaving.

Hopefully, you are not one of those.


Old Man


I didn't assume anything, mate. In the quote it actually says:

"Speaking of guns, last year a beautiful 19-year-old girl who lives in my area
got shot in the head by a group of gangs
. It's a sad story, they said that her face was unrecognisable from the impact of the bullet".

Didn't you read that?

I have also heard of alot of Lao children in Ausrtalia, who are also in gangs. I just had a relative come over for a holiday, and he says some Lao gangs even fight it out against each other. There was a slaying recently between the two sets. You're right, all this sggression is very uncharacteristic of the relaxed Lao modus operandi. That's definitely not how I was raised.

I'm not a 'gangster'. But I won't lie, there were times in my youth when I did puff my chest out and contort my countenance into an intimidating manner. Something I'm not proud of. If anything, I think it's just part of growing up. I have now matured into a man and it always brings a smile to my face when I reminisce about such foolery! I think it's best to just let the young ones be. It's all those hormones cracking off that brings out that persona, right?

Smiley






If you do have a criminal record, then your life is pretty much over. You won't get any REAL jobs unless you know the employer.



That IS a stupid law. They can't even rent under their own name? Where most of the criminals live?
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Reply #49 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 1:02am
 
Maybe they live with friend and family if they're lucky. I think they also has social program to help ex felons looking for jobs or place to live. I don't really remember, but they say on the news there's around 12 million American with criminals record.   
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Reply #50 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 1:07am
 
llX wrote on 27th Apr, 2011 at 1:02am:
Maybe they live with friend and family if they're lucky. I think they also has social program to help ex felons looking for jobs or place to live. I don't really remember, but they say on the news there's around 12 million American with criminals record.  
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That kind of law has the opposite effect, in that it only encourages crime.
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Reply #51 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 1:22am
 
I think crimes in the U.S is pretty high. Its also depend on where you go. Mostly in a poor city neighborhood crimes are higher. Some people just don't care about anything. With 300 million people there'll be bad element." There's bad apple in every tree."
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Larb Dip wrote on 27th Apr, 2011 at 1:07am:
llX wrote on 27th Apr, 2011 at 1:02am:
Maybe they live with friend and family if they're lucky. I think they also has social program to help ex felons looking for jobs or place to live. I don't really remember, but they say on the news there's around 12 million American with criminals record.  
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That kind of law has the opposite effect, in that it only encourages crime.

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Reply #52 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 1:33am
 
Are criminals still eligable for welfare?

How much do you recieve on welfare in the States? Do they give you free housing like they do in NZ?
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Reply #53 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 3:11am
 
In the US, the more offsprings you'd produce, the more money you'd get from the regular taxpayer Wink.  Must be nice to get free housing in NZ.  I should move to NZ then so I do not have to motivate myself to get a job.

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Reply #54 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 4:40am
 
Low income can get welfare and subsidy for education, housing. But it's not easy to quality as you think. Government has deficits so there's a lot of cutback. But welfare is probably not as generous at NZ or Aussie.
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Reply #55 - 27th Apr, 2011 at 11:44pm
 
PEACE wrote on 27th Apr, 2011 at 3:11am:
In the US, the more offsprings you'd produce, the more money you'd get from the regular taxpayer Wink.  Must be nice to get free housing in NZ.  I should move to NZ then so I do not have to motivate myself to get a job.

Larb Dip wrote on 27th Apr, 2011 at 1:33am:
Are criminals still eligable for welfare?

How much do you recieve on welfare in the States? Do they give you free housing like they do in NZ?



Don't read too much into 'free housing'. NOTHING is for free. Those 'free' houses are subsidised state homes. Maybe benefactors only pay about....25% (approximately) of the market value. Then again, these ARE state houses, and are just decent habitable homes. Nothing flash about them. They pay through their welfare. So it's pretty much 'free', right? Benefactors only receieve enough money to survive and make it through until the following week, until their next 'pay day'. I also know of a few women who have made a LIVING off getting pregnant. Their doles (welfare, as we call it here in NZ) increases with every child. Their benefits also increase along with their expanding brood. The NZ government is VERY good. One of the least corrupt in the world. However, there are some (benefactors) that manipulate the system. Believe it or not: Australias welfare system is TWICE as generous, in regards to their payouts.
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Reply #56 - 28th Apr, 2011 at 12:03am
 
Same as the U.S welfare system some people abuse it. That's why many Hmong-American has lot of kids about 5-6 some has more. They get foodstamp, housing and free medical.

Maybe we should move to Australia if they are so generous with welfare system. There's no need to work then. Nobody want to work if they has a choices. Sometime you can't just be too nice to people some will take advantage of you.
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Reply #57 - 28th Apr, 2011 at 12:10am
 
llX wrote on 28th Apr, 2011 at 12:03am:
Same as the U.S welfare system some people abuse it. That's why many Hmong-American has lot of kids about 5-6 some has more. They get foodstamp, housing and free medical.

Maybe we should move to Australia if they are so generous with welfare system. There's no need to work then. Nobody want to work if they has a choices. Sometime you can't just be too nice to people some will take advantage of you.
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I was thinking of doing the same, and moving over to Australia. The money is GOOD. The weather is HOT! HOT! HOT! Even hotter than Laos! Sauna atmosphere (so I've heard. I've never been, but I have alot of pinong in Sydney who keep urging me to go over). I'll have to go over REAL soon. Wink
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Reply #58 - 28th Apr, 2011 at 2:50am
 
I read statistics somewhere stating that Lao-American is one of the least producing ethnic asian group (as percentage within the population) in the US comparing to Viet, Chinese for examples.  Maybe the welfare system should motivate us to 'bang a gong' more often so our Lao-American population rate can keep up with other asian group population while getting free ffood, housing and medical care and not have to work at the same time Cheesy Grin Wink.

llX wrote on 28th Apr, 2011 at 12:03am:
Same as the U.S welfare system some people abuse it. That's why many Hmong-American has lot of kids about 5-6 some has more. They get foodstamp, housing and free medical.

Maybe we should move to Australia if they are so generous with welfare system. There's no need to work then. Nobody want to work if they has a choices. Sometime you can't just be too nice to people some will take advantage of you.
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Reply #59 - 28th Apr, 2011 at 3:24am
 
That's true I read the same articles. Compare to other Asian group Lao, Khmer are at the bottom of the food chain. When it come to education and wealth. Chinese-American, Japanese, Korean, Indian, Viet are doing well. I think it's a culture and how they raise their kids. In Korean and Chinsese culture for example college education is a must. Most of them are business owner so they pass that knowledge to their kids on how to run a business.
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PEACE wrote on 28th Apr, 2011 at 2:50am:
I read statistics somewhere stating that Lao-American is one of the least producing ethnic asian group (as percentage within the population) in the US comparing to Viet, Chinese for examples.  Maybe the welfare system should motivate us to 'bang a gong' more often so our Lao-American population rate can keep up with other asian group population while getting free ffood, housing and medical care and not have to work at the same time Cheesy Grin Wink.

llX wrote on 28th Apr, 2011 at 12:03am:
Same as the U.S welfare system some people abuse it. That's why many Hmong-American has lot of kids about 5-6 some has more. They get foodstamp, housing and free medical.

Maybe we should move to Australia if they are so generous with welfare system. There's no need to work then. Nobody want to work if they has a choices. Sometime you can't just be too nice to people some will take advantage of you.
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