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Title: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Larb Dip on 31st May, 2011 at 9:22am
Seaw, can you decipher this for me? You don't need to give me a word for word translation. A concise sentence will do. :)
Does it divulge the Artist and track they alledgedly mimicked? Pull-T club band withdraws from Lao Music Awards 2010 The Ministry of Information and Culture decided to withdraw the Best Hip Hop music awards from the band "Pull-T Club" due to their song is a copycat from other country. For more information, read the news below: ຂ່າວ: ບຸນທຽມ ກົມ ສິລະປະການສະແດງກະຊວງຖະແຫລງຂ່າວ ແລະ ວັດທະນະທຳໃນນາມປະທານຜູ້ຊີ້ນຳການຈັດຕັ້ງງານປະກາດລາງວັນລາວ ມິວສິກອະວອດ 2 ປະຈຳປີ 2011 ສັ່ງຖອນ 2 ລາງວັນຈາກວົງ ພູລທີຄລັບ ທີ່ໄດ້ຮັບລາງວັນເພງຮິບຮ໋ອບຍອດນິຍົມ ແລະ ລາງວັນນັກຮ້ອງເພງຮິບຮ໋ອບຍອດນິຍົມໃນງານປະກາດລາງວັນລາວມິວສິກ ອະວອດ 2 ທີ່ຈັດຂຶ້ນເມື່ອວັນທີ 9 ເມສາ 2011 ທີ່ຜ່ານມາ ຫລັງທາງຄະນະກຳມະການຕັດສິນກວດພົບເປັນເພງທີ່ຮຽນແບບຕ່າງປະເທດ ແລະ ຜິດຕໍ່ກົດລະບຽບການຕັດສິນ. ແລງວັນອາທິດທີ 27 ພຶດສະ ພາ 2011 ທີ່ໂຮງແຮມວັນຊະນະ ຣີເວີຊາຍ ນະຄອນຫລວງວຽງຈັນ ທ່ານ ໄຊສະຫວາດ ສິງນາມວົງ ຫົວຫນ້າກົມສິລະປະການສະແດງກະຊວງຖະ ແຫລງຂ່າວ ແລະ ວັດທະນະທຳໄດ້ຊີ້ ແຈ້ງຕໍ່ເຫດການດັ່ງກ່າວວ່າ: ການປະກາດຖອນຍ້ອນນັກສິລະປິນໄດ້ສົ່ງຜົນງານເພງທີ່ມີການຮຽນແບບ ເພງຕ່າງປະເທດຮຽນແບບເພງຜູ້ອື່ນສົ່ງເຂົ້າມາ ຊີງລາງວັນ ແຕ່ບັງເອີນຜົນງານເພງດັ່ງກ່າວກໍ່ຖືກໂຫວດໃຫ້ໄດ້ຮັບລາງວັນເປັນ ທີ່ຮຽບຮ້ອຍ ຫລັງຈາກນັ້ນ ທາງກົມສິລະປະການສະແດງກະຊວງຖະແຫລງຂ່າວ ແລະ ວັດທະນະທຳ ຄະນະກຳມະການຕັດສິນງານປະກາດ ລາງວັນລາວມິວສິກອະວອດ 2 ປະຈຳປີ ກວດພົບວ່າ ເພງຫອມ ຂອງວົງ ພູລທີຄລັບ ເປັນເພງທີ່ຮຽນແບບເພງຈາກຕ່າງປະເທດ ທີ່ຜິດຕໍ່ລະບຽບຂອງການສົ່ງຜົນງານເຂົ້າຊີງລາງວັນ ພ້ອມກັນນັ້ນ ຍັງເປັນການຂັດຕໍ່ຈຸດປະສົງຄາດຫມາຍຂອງງານປະກາດລາງວັນມິວສິກອະ ວອດ 2 ທີ່ຈັດຂຶ້ນມາ ເພື່ອເປັນການສົ່ງເສີມ ແລະ ໃຫ້ກຳລັງໃຈແກ່ນັກສິລະປິນທີ່ໄດ້ສ້າງຜົນງານດີເດັ່ນອອກສູ່ ສັງຄົມ ແລະ ເສີມຂະຫຍາຍວົງການບັນເທີງຂອງລາວໃຫ້ມີຄວາມກ້າວຫນ້າສູ່ຄຸນນະພາບ ມາດຖານສາກົນເທື່ອລະກ້າວ. ທ່ານ ໄຊສະຫວາດ ສິງນາມວົງ ກ່າວຕື່ມອີກວ່າ: ການຖອນຄືນລາງວັນໃນຄັ້ງນີ້ ແມ່ນປະຕິບັດຕາມການແນະນຳຂອງກົມສິລະປະການສະແດງກະຊວງຖະແຫລງ ຂ່າວ ແລະ ວັດທະ ນະທຳ ທັງຫມົດນີ້ ກໍ່ເພື່ອເປັນມາດຖານ ແລະ ບົດຮຽນໃຫ້ແກ່ນັກສິລະປິນລາວທີ່ຈະສົ່ງຜົນງານເຂົ້າມາຊີງລາງວັນ ລາວມິວສິກອະວອດ ໃນຄັ້ງຕໍ່ໄປ. ສຳລັບ 2 ລາງວັນດັ່ງກ່າວ ແມ່ນໄດ້ຖືກມອບໃຫ້ນັກສິລະປິນ ແລະ ຜົນງານໃນສາຂາຕ່າງໆ ທີ່ມີຄະແນນຮອງລົງມາຄືລາງວັນ ນັກຮ້ອງເພງ ວົງຮິບຮ໋ອບຍອດນິຍົມ ໄດ້ແກ່ວົງແອວໂຊນ ແລະ ລາງວັນເພງຮິບຮ໋ອບຍອດນິຍົມໄດ້ແກ່ວົງ Gi-BLOOZ ເປັນ ກຽດມອບຂອງລາງວັນດັ່ງກ່າວ ໂດຍທ່ານ ໄຊສະຫວາດ ສິງນາມວົງ. http://samakomlao.blogspot.com/2011/05/pull-t-club-band-withdraws-from-lao.html |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao Lan Xang on 31st May, 2011 at 2:17pm
Booooo!!! Im a big fan of Pull-T club and just order their CD. Lao government don't know what they're talking about. They just rap about girl that's all nothing bad. Maybe that's why we don't hear much about L.O.G anymore.
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Larb Dip on 31st May, 2011 at 7:56pm
What HAS happened to LOG? Are they still active?
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao Lan Xang on 31st May, 2011 at 8:49pm
Have not heard L.O.G lately or any new song. Look like government put them out too. Government don't like rap it's too westernized. Look like these commies dinosaurs still stuck in the 70's.
:D ;D Larb Dip wrote on 31st May, 2011 at 7:56pm:
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao Lan Xang on 1st Jun, 2011 at 3:37pm
My Lao CD just arrived. I would to dedicated L.O.G, Pull-T Club album to Lao minister of information, and culture who doesn't like rap music, but who might have their heart broken or fall in love with other people girlfriends, and to those who like partying at the club.
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao Lan Xang on 1st Jun, 2011 at 3:41pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odTdJshEDVg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKuahmoZ22k&feature=related |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by JACKSPADE on 1st Jun, 2011 at 4:02pm llX wrote on 1st Jun, 2011 at 3:41pm:
I have nothing against rap (Hardcore fan of SIX MIX-A-LOT), If they rap normally I can tolerate that. The overuse of a Vocoder aka now known as Autotune is really freaken annoying. The guy from the oil company that developed this software needs to be shot. >:( A lot of talent has gone to waste because of it. |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Larb Dip on 1st Jun, 2011 at 9:06pm llX wrote on 1st Jun, 2011 at 3:37pm:
Did you order these online from Laos, bro? Some CDs look glossy, just wating to ripped into. :) You MUST be a HUGE fan of Lao music. How long before you learn every song off by heart? :D |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao Lan Xang on 1st Jun, 2011 at 9:16pm
I got these CD from Laopromotion.com for $5 each. I just started to listen to Pull-T Club and their album is very very good. I like most of their song. I like L.O.G too, but didn't get a chance to listen to other CD yet. I bump Lao rap in my car and at a house party. Most Lao people are very impress. They really like that they're rapping in Lao.
I grew up in America and listen to American gangster rap. Now I'm going back to Lao root and supported Lao entertainment. Plus Lao music are better then before and really good. If Pull-T Club was in Lao music award they'll win for sure. ;) :) |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao Lan Xang on 1st Jun, 2011 at 9:25pm
They don't used auto tune that much. Their album is very good. I give them credit, they can really rap and in Lao.They rap about girl, love nothing bad at all. Not like American rapper who rap about murder, killing, sex and drug. I rather see Lao-American kids listen to Lao rap then American gangster rap.
;) Larb Dip wrote on 1st Jun, 2011 at 9:06pm:
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by mychalmitchell323 on 1st Jun, 2011 at 9:28pm
I hope you guys dont mind me commenting here. I recruited a Lao rapper for the soundtrack of "Princess of Laos".
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao Lan Xang on 1st Jun, 2011 at 9:34pm
Good idea. I like Lao rap, rock. Anything that's good.
;) mychalmitchell323 wrote on 1st Jun, 2011 at 9:28pm:
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao Lan Xang on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 1:24am
Lao minister of information and culture say Pull-T Club song, rap is a copy cat from other country. Well does they also know that Marxist-Lenin ideology that they're worshiping is also a copycat from foreigner (Russia). "Hypocrite"
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by JACKSPADE on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 4:56am llX wrote on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 1:24am:
Music is different. If you want be respected by the world or people in general you have got to have originality. There is nothing wrong with copying melodies, etc...as long as they have permission from the original artist or record label and also give credit where credit is due. Remember the controversy between Coldplay and Joe Satriani? Coldplay's take on melody was spot on identical to Satriani, however the lawsuit was dismissed by the court in favor of Coldplay. I also agree with you in regards to positive messages sent out to audiences by Lao rappers from Laos. The Lao rappers here in the states are totally opposite, for example "Gumby", I don't know if you have heard of him. He's a wannabe disgrace. Everything in his song is sexual and beyond. |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Larb Dip on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 5:39am llX wrote on 1st Jun, 2011 at 9:25pm:
All in all, I think Laos' Ministry of Information and Culture made a good call to pull those rappers from the contest. The right decision! There's nothing wrong with sampling certain components of a song, or even covering the entire track in all its likeness (WITH the consent of the original artists, of course). But to be rewarded for someone ELSES brainchild is a travesty! I've never heard of such madness. :) How long did it take for your music to arrive? By the way, what is auto tune? |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao Lan Xang on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 7:41am
I got my CD in about 4-5 day. I order my CD from Laopromotion.com all the time and has no problem.
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by LaoCowboy on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 1:26pm
Thanks for the site bro, I will check out Laopromotion.com and I hope they have Chitpanya the band as well.
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Larb Dip on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 8:22pm mychalmitchell323 wrote on 1st Jun, 2011 at 9:28pm:
Who? :-? |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by mychalmitchell323 on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 11:18pm Larb Dip wrote on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 8:22pm:
He has a nice song that will fit a certain scene i told him to keep it radio friendly and he agreed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS3SYLSzcPo |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by JACKSPADE on 3rd Jun, 2011 at 4:04am llX wrote on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 7:41am:
Do you have this guy's cd too? He sings with Luang Prabang accent. My accent. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx94WEgNBu8&feature=related |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao Lan Xang on 3rd Jun, 2011 at 6:45am
I like him too KCK Kraper and watch his YouTube vdo all the time. I will order his CD next time.
;) OMD wrote on 3rd Jun, 2011 at 4:04am:
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by LaoCowboy on 4th Jun, 2011 at 4:24am
I am still not getting these rap songs that are currently out there. All they chant about are booze, chicks and sex and with no feelings for women.
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao USA on 4th Jun, 2011 at 4:44am
Government only allow Lao hip hop in 2000. They monitor the music industry. You can't rap or say whatever you want. I like Lao rap because they don't say anything bad. It's also a good way to learn Lao. I'm pretty old too in my early 30's but still listen to rap.
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by JACKSPADE on 5th Jun, 2011 at 3:28am llX wrote on 4th Jun, 2011 at 4:44am:
Nothing wrong listening to rap at that age or any age overall, as long as you don't start changing your identity because of it. :) I see our Lao kids these days trying to be something they are not, by acting out and communicating through ghetto or gangster speech. Let me clarify, if they were born here, I can understand and tolerate their behavior because they were influenced by the hip hop scene. The ones I have problems with are the ones born elsewhere, moving here, and trying so hard to fit in, changing their whole identity and personality to be ghetto, or gangster. You know where I'm getting at right? LOL |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by LaoCowboy on 5th Jun, 2011 at 3:30am
I am definitely 'old school' when it comes to music. I mainly listen to glamour rock metal bands from the 80's and country music. I thought Rap is dead already?
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Larb Dip on 5th Jun, 2011 at 1:19pm OMD wrote on 5th Jun, 2011 at 3:28am:
Are you referring to this type of behaviour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0LQvjbmvRo Since I'm not from the US, is this how all the Lao boys really behave over there? Or are they just acting for the music video? |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by JACKSPADE on 5th Jun, 2011 at 7:24pm Larb Dip wrote on 5th Jun, 2011 at 1:19pm:
No, not just music video, this is how many behave or act over here. Some use this ghetto gangster excuse also to cause violence amongst others. The crazy thing, you may know the phrase "nice guys finish last". Well it's true, many girls from rich or nice homes flock over many of these losers all the time. When you hear news of death or cause of death it's mostly for this reason "girl dies because of jealousy involved". What is it like in NZ? Any of these pricks exist over there? |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao LXE on 6th Jun, 2011 at 1:28am
Few young Lao-American act like this. Most doesn't.
;) Larb Dip wrote on 5th Jun, 2011 at 1:19pm:
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao LXE on 6th Jun, 2011 at 1:30am
When I was younger I act like a little gangster, and listen to a gangster rap. Now I'm too old to act like that, but I like Lao Rap.
;) OMD wrote on 5th Jun, 2011 at 3:28am:
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Larb Dip on 6th Jun, 2011 at 3:36am OMD wrote on 5th Jun, 2011 at 7:24pm:
You sound scorned, Jack. ;D These 'pricks' are over here too. And we have them in adundance! There are American copycat gangs everywhere. The Bloods, Crips, Hells Angels, Highway 69 etc. They sag their pants low enough to easily spy the residue of last nights dinner, in between the crevasse of their buttocks. If you know what I mean. ;D Their 'swagger' consists of robot-like mechanical movements: their shoulders - one after the other - move with the fluidity of a skier taking a stroll. Then there's also that sombre frown they walk around with! Very unapproachable. Most people do grow out of that futile lifestyle. However, the guys in that video look mid 20s/early 30s. That lifestyle never appealed to you, Jack? |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lao LXE on 6th Jun, 2011 at 3:50am
Wow I didn't know New Zealand was like that.
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by JACKSPADE on 6th Jun, 2011 at 7:45am Larb Dip wrote on 6th Jun, 2011 at 3:36am:
Nope, currently over here even in their early or late 20-30s they still haven't grown out of it. I don't know where LAO LXE gets "few act like that" maybe in his hometown of Minnesota. I've been to Minnesota in the past...It's not known for gang life. As for California or New York on the other hand is well known for hip hop, hip hop fashion or gangs which has a huge influence around the world. I've lived in California nearly my entire life and I have seen changes over the years, I know. I've been to Lao gangster parties, and I've witnessed it all. The only reason I went was because of the word "party" involved. I couldn't resist. ;D Their way of life never appealed to me, I just think it's a waste especially when they don't grow out of it. |
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Title: Re: Are Lao rappers plagiarising? Post by Lan Xang on 6th Jun, 2011 at 3:31pm
There're some in Minnesota, but not as bad as California. I grew up with that lifestyle and hangout with friend who are in a gang. California is gang capital of United States.
;) OMD wrote on 6th Jun, 2011 at 7:45am:
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