Vang Vieng, Land of opportunity.

Anyone with very careful homeworks, skills, the desire, the motivation and determination can come up with a lucrative business in Laos.  As the country will experience more and more human activities, there will be a lot more exchange of money :).  

How far is Vang Vieng from Vientaine?

Agreed.
;)

Vang Vieng is around 3 hours by car from Vientiane.

What is the normal speed limit on Route 13 (km/hr)? Is Route 13 a 2 or 4 Lane highway?

Motorists drive pretty fast on that route. 100 km/hr seems to be the norm.

There's only one lane in each direction of the road because we don't have the funds.

There are at least 500 members in the LP forum.  I wonder somethimes why there are only about half a dozen that are frequently involved in posting replies and comments.  

Not many members join in the discussion, but that's not a concern to us.

Our forum still gets a lot of visitors every day though. You'll notice the data at the bottom that there's always guests online. We will continue to provide a good source of information for many years to come, for everyone, whether or not people participate in the actual discussion.

The next major festival is the Boat Racing and Boun That Luang festival, and there's lots of things to look forward to on Lao Pride.

Not many posted or reply, but there are lot of visiter and post view. When I join LP forum about a year ago. I remember it was mostly me and Admins reply back and forward. Some people don't like to debated or posted discussion.
:)


PEACE wrote on 13^th May, 2011 at 3:12am:

There are at least 500 members in the LP forum.  I wonder somethimes why there are only about half a dozen that are frequently involved in posting replies and comments.

Please posted some picture. I'm looking forward to that. I'll try to posted some picture when I visit Lao temple or Minnesota states fairs.
:)


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 13^th May, 2011 at 3:46am:

Not many members join in the discussion, but that's not a concern to us. Our forum still gets a lot of visitors every day though. You'll notice the data at the bottom that there's always guests online. We will continue to provide a good source of information for many years to come, for everyone, whether or not people participate in the actual discussion. The next major festival is the Boat Racing and Boun That Luang festival, and there's lots of things to look forward to on Lao Pride.

Yes, we are back to the good old days when only you and I were having a discussion.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 13^th May, 2011 at 6:15am:

Yes, we are back to the good old days when only you and I were having a discussion.

Now I'M back!

Surely this means better days?

Agreed we had good debated and discussion. I trying to learned more about Laos so it make sense to talk to someone who live there like yourself. Thank you for keep us updated and inform about Laos. Keep up the good work.
;) :o


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 13^th May, 2011 at 6:15am:

Yes, we are back to the good old days when only you and I were having a discussion.

Hello all,
not too sure about the land of opportunity in Laos no matter in what region people are refer to. Only few people would agree to that claim especially those only know very little about the country. For all the believers thing is always not what they seem to be in Laos. for example, happy people is not really happy but they act and speak in that way to fool others. Sure everyone is so eager to see and help Laos  to succeed in the future but people don't understand that the Laos government's political view and ethics is Laos biggest down fall to the poor economy and people struggles. The government can push out all the new project and idea they want but if they do not fix the political system it less than likely the a big change and promise would come for the people for better future.

That admin chick looks pretty hot actually, although a bit naive. How old are you admin?

The following page will answer your question:

http://www.laopride.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.cgi?num=1302630777/15

Do you have a boyfriend?

We would appreciate it if you change your screen name to something more appropriate. You can do this in the User Control Panel.

No, I don't have a boyfriend yet.

Only time will tell.  

You are very correct about hte one political party system however the pendulum is swinging in a small increment at a time and people change.  Also, you have to remember that the UN is watching Laos right now.


sunya75 wrote on 14^th May, 2011 at 8:11am:

Hello all, not too sure about the land of opportunity in Laos no matter in what region people are refer to. Only few people would agree to that claim especially those only know very little about the country. For all the believers thing is always not what they seem to be in Laos. for example, happy people is not really happy but they act and speak in that way to fool others. Sure everyone is so eager to see and help Laos  to succeed in the future but people don't understand that the Laos government's political view and ethics is Laos biggest down fall to the poor economy and people struggles. The government can push out all the new project and idea they want but if they do not fix the political system it less than likely the a big change and promise would come for the people for better future.

I agreed with you. Laos would have been better off under democracy. But government is opening up and welcome Capitalist. They trying to be like China. Capitalist economy with one party system.

"Human being is enterpreneurial and creative. But the only thing that make them poor is the policy and system they live by and enviroment they live in."

:o 8-)


sunya75 wrote on 14^th May, 2011 at 8:11am:

Hello all, not too sure about the land of opportunity in Laos no matter in what region people are refer to. Only few people would agree to that claim especially those only know very little about the country. For all the believers thing is always not what they seem to be in Laos. for example, happy people is not really happy but they act and speak in that way to fool others. Sure everyone is so eager to see and help Laos  to succeed in the future but people don't understand that the Laos government's political view and ethics is Laos biggest down fall to the poor economy and people struggles. The government can push out all the new project and idea they want but if they do not fix the political system it less than likely the a big change and promise would come for the people for better future.

Vang Vieng gets a lot of bad comments on tourism forums because of all the drunken foreigners who like to party there.

Vang Vieng is a place to party and tubing. Sound like fun to me.
:D

VangVieng is the mess. Bunch of the Crackheads like to be there. Its land of " Yaa Baa" MDMA know as ECSTASY. You can get the drug so easier than buy a candy. I would call this place " Welcome to the land of Yaa Baa". Most the foreigners are from Europe and Cannada, not much from the US.
Beware if you be there, Do not get hook on Yaa Baa "Crazy Drug".

Drugs are everywhere, including alcohol :o.  It's up to an individual to rationalize when is enough, what is good vs bad and right vs wrong.  They really need to crack down on the suppliers.

How is the drug scene in Laos? Is it a 'problem' yet?

What can we high off in our beloved Land Of The Million Elephants?

Laos also have drug problem, but not as bad as Thailand because of small population. Official say there's about 40,000 drug addicted in Vientiane alone. The real number might be higher.
:-[


Larb Dip wrote on 18^th May, 2011 at 12:22am:

How is the drug scene in Laos? Is it a 'problem' yet? What can we high off in our beloved Land Of The Million Elephants?

"WELCOME TO THE LAND OF BILLION  YAA BAA"
All the Crackhead are welcome to Laos. Be there then you will experience the way of our ppl doing the bussiness. Cash Only.No Credit.

Believe or Not " Yaa Baa " is cheaper than " Drinking water "

When you talk about land of Yaba or sex capitals of the world. I think about Thailand. Laos also has some drug problem but not near Siam. Remember drug dealer caught with certain amount get death penalty in Laos.
8-)


Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 18^th May, 2011 at 4:45am:

"WELCOME TO THE LAND OF BILLION  YAA BAA" All the Crackhead are welcome to Laos. Be there then you will experience the way of our ppl doing the bussiness. Cash Only.No Credit. Believe or Not " Yaa Baa " is cheaper than " Drinking water "

I am talking about Laos. I knew about Thailand.
We(Laos)do not need to follow the Thailand style way of live. We Khonlao should be better than them, very small population in hug land and most of us are smart but why smart in wrong way.

one thing I had learn about our ppl is to easy of every thing in life. Called: Easy people. Don't care. Don't give a damn, is in our blood.

Sex,Drug and Corruption was a major problem in Thailand since the beginning of Siam. Brother killed Brother for thron. History repeated itself all the times.

Our history was suck.......let me ask When did the Lao won the war with the neighbors? Never. Thailand,Cambodia,Vietnam,Burma and do not mention about China...


Comparing to the neighbors we are just a little Baby.

I had seen it all and live to this day.

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 18^th May, 2011 at 6:07am:

I had seen it all and live to this day.

How old are you?

Lao Lan Xang has the largest empire in southeast Asia. During the time of king Fa Ngum the great. Lan Xang has won many war against Siam, Burmese and Annam. Our downfall is when Lao start to fight among ourself and spread into three kingdom. Lao loss the war and Isan to Thailand in 1906 because Thailand has gun and European war advisor. " Long live Lan Xang."
8-)


Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 18^th May, 2011 at 6:07am:

I am talking about Laos. I knew about Thailand. We(Laos)do not need to follow the Thailand style way of live. We Khonlao should be better than them, very small population in hug land and most of us are smart but why smart in wrong way. one thing I had learn about our ppl is to easy of every thing in life. Called: Easy people. Don't care. Don't give a damn, is in our blood. Sex,Drug and Corruption was a major problem in Thailand since the beginning of Siam. Brother killed Brother for thron. History repeated itself all the times. Our history was suck.......let me ask When did the Lao won the war with the neighbors? Never. Thailand,Cambodia,Vietnam,Burma and do not mention about China... Comparing to the neighbors we are just a little Baby. I had seen it all and live to this day.

Chao Fa Ngum disappearanced without trace. And Laos had 3 heads, each head like to bite each other for power. 3 heads represented for North(Luangprabang), central(Vientiane) and South(Chumpasack).
Today 3 heads are representing for Jex,Keow,Lao = 6.5 mil

King Fa Ngum the great was exile and spend the rest of his life in Lanna (Chaing Mai). You have a point about three head biting each other. There were no unity, everybody was for themselves, that's one of our downfall.
8-)


Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 20^th May, 2011 at 1:03am:

Chao Fa Ngum disappearanced without trace. And Laos had 3 heads, each head like to bite each other for power. 3 heads represented for North(Luangprabang), central(Vientiane) and South(Chumpasack). Today 3 heads are representing for Jex,Keow,Lao = 6.5 mil

Now is the time to unite ;)!

Agreed. War and conflict been over its time of peace and moving forward. Lao nai Lao nork need to united and help Laos development anyway they can.
;)


PEACE wrote on 20^th May, 2011 at 12:16pm:

Now is the time to unite ;)!

Just like BLOOD ON BLOOD!

PEACE wrote on 20^th May, 2011 at 5:44pm:

Just like BLOOD ON BLOOD!

What does this mean man?

It sounds like something one of those LA street gang mottos. ;D

It's about Brothers together as ONE and friendship forever until the end of time ;).  Give it a listen if you have not heard of the song:


http://youtu.be/jyaKluvnhE4



Larb Dip wrote on 20^th May, 2011 at 10:37pm:

PEACE wrote on 20th May, 2011 at 5:44pm: Just like BLOOD ON BLOOD! What does this mean man? It sounds like something one of those LA street gang mottos. ;D

PEACE wrote on 21^st May, 2011 at 3:44am:

It's about Brothers together as ONE and friendship forever until the end of time ;).  Give it a listen if you have not heard of the song: http://youtu.be/jyaKluvnhE4

Is this your type of music? This is your favourite track, right?

Definitely one of my favorite tracks.  Anything 80's Metal (so called hairband) like Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Cinderella, Dokken, Winger, Warrant, Motley Cruel, Damn Yankees and Honeymoon Suite to name a few....  What about you? What's your music type?


Larb Dip wrote on 21^st May, 2011 at 4:24am:

PEACE wrote on 21st May, 2011 at 3:44am: It's about Brothers together as ONE and friendship forever until the end of time ;).  Give it a listen if you have not heard of the song: http://youtu.be/jyaKluvnhE4 Is this your type of music? This is your favourite track, right?

Family feud and rivalry is a problem. Lao help Viet fighting Lao, Lao help Thai fighting Lao. What we need is unity and help each other out and look after our own people first.  
:)


PEACE wrote on 20^th May, 2011 at 5:44pm:

Just like BLOOD ON BLOOD!

PEACE wrote on 21^st May, 2011 at 8:08pm:

Definitely one of my favorite tracks.  Anything 80's Metal (so called hairband) like Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Cinderella, Dokken, Winger, Warrant, Motley Cruel, Damn Yankees and Honeymoon Suite to name a few....  What about you? What's your music type?

I already answered that one bro. Here have a look:

http://www.laopride.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.cgi?num=1304914921/0

I see all Lao and Issan music.  No english speaking artist from New Zealand?  My favourite New Zealand band is Crowded House.  Have you heard of them?


http://youtu.be/J9gKyRmic20

PEACE wrote on 22^nd May, 2011 at 3:38am:

I see all Lao and Issan music.  No english speaking artist from New Zealand?  My favourite New Zealand band is Crowded House.  Have you heard of them? http://youtu.be/J9gKyRmic20

All those Siamese/Isaan songs are Laos LXE's tracks.

Everybody knows Crowded House. They are NZs favourite sons (unofficially). Two of their biggest ballads are: 'Better be home soon' and 'Fall at your feet' AND the song you just posted. Those songs are always covered. I'm surprised you know about them. ;D

Alright, since you asked for it, here's a 'english' song from NZ. Old school Kiwi rap. I grew up not far from where most of this video was shot, but have sinced relocated to a more affluent area. I always get nostalgic whenever I see this. I feel like crying. No BS!. :'( :'( :'(This is what you guys in the US call 'ghetto'.

Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhK8o2lRy5o

I didn't know NZ have ghetto too.
;)

Good NZ Kiwi rap and the artist is the native 'Aborigine' from New Zealand?

The late 80's and very early 90's were the period when music was the best and Crowded House songs were on every station here in the US.  Today's music are basically crap ;D.  

Back in the day American rap is about gang, drug and women. Now its about money, women and party. The only rapper I like is Lil Wayne.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udxZ9zkDzpo&feature=related

;)


PEACE wrote on 22^nd May, 2011 at 12:24pm:

Good NZ Kiwi rap and the artist is the native 'Aborigine' from New Zealand? The late 80's and very early 90's were the period when music was the best and Crowded House songs were on every station here in the US.  Today's music are basically crap ;D.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUbpGmR1-QM&feature=related

llX wrote on 22^nd May, 2011 at 7:17am:

I didn't know NZ have ghetto too. ;)

There are no real 'ghettos' in NZ. People just refer to South Auckland as such to portray it with the 'rugged' image it deserves.


PEACE wrote on 22^nd May, 2011 at 12:24pm:

The late 80's and very early 90's were the period when music was the best and Crowded House songs were on every station here in the US.  Today's music are basically crap ;D. Good NZ Kiwi rap and the artist is the native 'Aborigine' from New Zealand?

The natives in NZ are 'Maori' not Aboriginies. Again, you're confused with Australia.

I agree! Todays music is shitt.

Ghetto is poor area. Where most low income people live.
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6WKMNmFsxM

Were you raised in a ghetto, bro?

We lived in the Buffalo ghetto for 3 years.


Larb Dip wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 6:58am:

Were you raised in a ghetto, bro?

PEACE wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 12:06pm:

We lived in the Buffalo ghetto for 3 years. Larb Dip wrote on 23rd May, 2011 at 6:58am: Were you raised in a ghetto, bro?

What was that like? Was it hard?

Been there done that. I used to live in the gheto, suburb, Laos. Gheto in American. In Laos we called them middle class. These low income people get subsidy for housing, food, school and medicaid. In Laos if you're poor you got nothing.
;)


Larb Dip wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 6:58am:

Were you raised in a ghetto, bro?

llX wrote on 24^th May, 2011 at 3:18am:

Been there done that. I used to live in the gheto, suburb, Laos. Gheto in American. In Laos we called them middle class. These low income people get subsidy for housing, food, school and medicaid. In Laos if you're poor you got nothing. ;) Larb Dip wrote on 23rd May, 2011 at 6:58am: Were you raised in a ghetto, bro?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I hear you brother. [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

You just try live based on what you have around you and nothing fancy.  For me it was mainly playing basketball at the school basketball court.  I grew up with black friends and they taught me alot how to play the game of basketball ;).

What's the crime rate for ghettos? Is it high?

Where I grew up, the crime rate is the highest in the country. There are just some places you can't go to when the sun sets. :-/

Same in the US.  

I also grow up with black and white friends. I still play basketball and workout at the gym at the same time.  
:)


PEACE wrote on 24^th May, 2011 at 3:28am:

You just try live based on what you have around you and nothing fancy.  For me it was mainly playing basketball at the school basketball court.  I grew up with black friends and they taught me alot how to play the game of basketball ;).

Same as the US. I live about 25 minute from Minneapolis, but some called it murdereapolis because crimes rates and murder is the highest in minnesota. About 35-50 people get murder a year there. The city where I live right now they have about 1 murder every 3 or 4 year if I remember.
8-)


Larb Dip wrote on 24^th May, 2011 at 3:32am:

What's the crime rate for ghettos? Is it high? Where I grew up, the crime rate is the highest in the country. There are just some places you can't go to when the sun sets. :-/

Sounds like a predominantly white neighbourhood?

Yep the city that I live in is only 30,000 people. Minneapolis is about 450,000 people.
;)


Larb Dip wrote on 24^th May, 2011 at 9:40am:

Sounds like a predominantly white neighbourhood?

How far are you from Minnetonka?

About 45 minute or less. My brother live about 10 minute from there. Minnetonka have a very nice lake.
:)


PEACE wrote on 25^th May, 2011 at 3:25am:

How far are you from Minnetonka?