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Message started by Lao LXE on 6th May, 2011 at 4:51pm

Title: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by Lao LXE on 6th May, 2011 at 4:51pm
Vietnam, Laos Uprising: 28 Hmong Protesters Killed

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO1105/S00090/vietnam-laos-uprising-28-hmong-protesters-killed.htm

Thousands of Viet-Hmong minority political and religious dissidents along the Laos - Vietnam border, who are staging mass protests demanding religious freedom and land reforms from the communist regime in Hanoi, have been attacked by Vietnam People's Army (VPA) troops and security forces in the remote Dien Bien province of Vietnam. Twenty-eight (28) ethnic Hmong people, protesting against government policies, are confirmed dead in recent days, with hundreds more missing, along the Laos -Vietnam border area of the the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (SRV), according to Lao Hmong non-governmental organizations, and the Center for Public Policy Analysis in Washington, D.C.

Large numbers of Vietnam People's Army infantry and mechanized troops, as well as Lao People's Army (LPA) soldiers, were rushed to the Dien Bein border area at the direction of the Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces of the SRV on May 3-5, 2011. Ground attack helicopters were also reportedly dispatched from bases in Laos and Vietnam by the VPA, at the direction of the armed forces Chef of Staff of Vietnam. General Tran Quang Khue, and other VPA generals, who dominate the politburo in Vietnam, have reportedly played a major role in the crack-down, and deployment of the armed forces, against the peaceful Hmong protesters.



“We are concerned about credible reports that many poor and ordinary Hmong people in the Dien Bein area, as well as other people along the Vietnam and Laos border, have been arrested or killed by Vietnamese Army, and Lao Army, soldiers and police because of their protests for land reform to Communist officials in Hanoi, their opposition to illegal logging, or because of their independent Christian and Animist religious beliefs ,” said Christy Lee, Executive Director of Hmong Advance, Inc.(HAI) in Washington, D.C.

Ms. Lee continued: “Ordinary Hmong people, and other highland and forest-dwelling minority peoples in Laos and Vietnam, have also been subjected to a new and increasing injustice by the authorities and Vietnam People's Army-owned companies, which continue their oppressive methods, religious persecution, and to engage in illegal logging in Vietnam and Laos, including the Dien Bien area in Vietnam, as well as the Laotian provinces of Xieng Khouang, Khammoune, Luang Prabang and elsewhere.”

“The Hmong, and other minority Christian and Animist religious believers, are being driven of their lands and killed and persecuted by corrupt Communist party officials and the military elite in Vietnam and Laos,” Ms. Lee stated.

“At least twenty-eight Viet-Hmong are known to have been killed, and 33 wounded, in recent attacks by Vietnam People's Army troops in the Dien Bien area of Vietnam,” said Philip Smith, Executive Director of the Center for Public Policy Analysis (CPPA) in Washington, D.C.

The non-governmental organizations, including the CPPA, HAI, Hmong Advancement, Inc. and others, cite Hmong, Vietnamese and Lao sources inside the area of Dien Bien provice where the Hmong are currently staging mass protests against Vietnam's communist and military authorities.

“The Viet-Hmong people fleeing to Laos from Dien Bien province, during the recent anti-government protests and crackdown in Vietnam, have also been arrested by Lao security forces and VPA troops who are working closely together to jointly seek to arrest, persecute and kill them,.” Smith stated.

“In recent days, significant numbers of Vietnam People's Army troops from Hanoi, and security forces from Laos, have been deployed for special military operations directed against the Hmong minority people, and independent religious believers and political dissidents, along the Vietnam – Laos border and the Dien Bein province area of Vietnam,” Smith observed.

Smith continued: “At least seventeen Viet-Hmong Chr

Title: Re: Vietnam, Laos Uprising: 28 Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by Lao LXE on 6th May, 2011 at 5:07pm
Viet-Hmong  peaceful protester just protest for land, and religious right. Crimes against humanity. Where is UN? Vietnam with 90 million population can murder and slaughter their own civilians. Why does they need Lao soldiers help?
>:( :(

Title: Re: Vietnam, Laos Uprising: 28 Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by Old Man on 6th May, 2011 at 5:31pm

llX wrote on 6th May, 2011 at 5:07pm:
Viet-Hmong  peaceful protester just protest for land, and religious right. Crimes against humanity. Where is UN? Vietnam with 90 million population can murder and slaughter their own civilians. Why does they need Lao soldiers help?
>:( :(


If it were true and not just more CPPA propaganda, doubtless the UN would indeed be intervening.

Title: Re: Vietnam, Laos Uprising: 28 Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by Lao LXE on 6th May, 2011 at 11:29pm
I hope it's not true Old Man. There's no freedom of press so we don't really know the truth. Sometime 2 killed they say 20, and 20 killed they say only 3.
:-?


wrote on 6th May, 2011 at 5:31pm:

llX wrote on 6th May, 2011 at 5:07pm:
Viet-Hmong  peaceful protester just protest for land, and religious right. Crimes against humanity. Where is UN? Vietnam with 90 million population can murder and slaughter their own civilians. Why does they need Lao soldiers help?
>:( :(


If it were true and not just more CPPA propaganda, doubtless the UN would indeed be intervening.


Title: Re: Vietnam, Laos Uprising: 28 Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by LaoCowboy on 7th May, 2011 at 10:23pm
Indeed.  Laos is set to be removed from UN's 'poorest country list' or something like that, by 2020 and I am sure that the country cannot afford to behave like this when the UN keep their eyes on Laos from now on.

 
wrote on 6th May, 2011 at 5:31pm:

llX wrote on 6th May, 2011 at 5:07pm:
Viet-Hmong  peaceful protester just protest for land, and religious right. Crimes against humanity. Where is UN? Vietnam with 90 million population can murder and slaughter their own civilians. Why does they need Lao soldiers help?
>:( :(


If it were true and not just more CPPA propaganda, doubtless the UN would indeed be intervening.


Title: Re: Vietnam, Laos Uprising: 28 Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by Lao LXE on 9th May, 2011 at 4:01am
Agreed. Laos can't afford to lose foreign aid or get sanction by UN.
:)


PEACE wrote on 7th May, 2011 at 10:23pm:
Indeed.  Laos is set to be removed from UN's 'poorest country list' or something like that, by 2020 and I am sure that the country cannot afford to behave like this when the UN keep their eyes on Laos from now on.

 
wrote on 6th May, 2011 at 5:31pm:

llX wrote on 6th May, 2011 at 5:07pm:
Viet-Hmong  peaceful protester just protest for land, and religious right. Crimes against humanity. Where is UN? Vietnam with 90 million population can murder and slaughter their own civilians. Why does they need Lao soldiers help?
>:( :(


If it were true and not just more CPPA propaganda, doubtless the UN would indeed be intervening.


Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by longhang on 11th May, 2011 at 3:07pm
hate to say but my hmong people have no country of their own so i suggest they follow the rules of the country they temporarily live in. do not fight and die for a religion. die for your people or your country.

Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by Lao LXE on 11th May, 2011 at 8:56pm
Agreed longhang. It's time of peace and moving forward. When you're in Laos or Vietnam we have to follow their rule of law. Protesting is not a good idea. But I still cry foul. Killing unarmed peaceful protester is a "crimes against humanity."
:-[ :'(

Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by LaoCowboy on 12th May, 2011 at 3:35pm
There is no future when you go back to the past ;).


llX wrote on 11th May, 2011 at 8:56pm:
Agreed longhang. It's time of peace and moving forward. When you're in Laos or Vietnam we have to follow their rule of law. Protesting is not a good idea. But I still cry foul. Killing unarmed peaceful protester is a "crimes against humanity."
:-[ :'(


Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by Lao LXE on 12th May, 2011 at 9:24pm
Agreed. You also have to learn from the past mistake and move forward.
8-)


PEACE wrote on 12th May, 2011 at 3:35pm:
There is no future when you go back to the past ;).


llX wrote on 11th May, 2011 at 8:56pm:
Agreed longhang. It's time of peace and moving forward. When you're in Laos or Vietnam we have to follow their rule of law. Protesting is not a good idea. But I still cry foul. Killing unarmed peaceful protester is a "crimes against humanity."
:-[ :'(


Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 18th May, 2011 at 4:10am
Since the beginning of times, minorities groups alway had to struggle with the majorities groups. Killing is HUMAN NATURE way of live.

Peace will come when the killing is done. Whatever happenning in Laos stay in Laos. UN ain't going to know sh*t.

It easier to say "move forward" while you living in the house then those guys who is living in the jungle.( I used been there, I knew)

Hatre, Creed,Corrupt and selfish is in our human blood since God had created us.( Asking yourself)

Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by Lao LXE on 18th May, 2011 at 4:36am
Yep sad but true. Human being is part of animals kingdom. Pretty crazy what we do to each other.
:'( :-[


Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 18th May, 2011 at 4:10am:
Since the beginning of times, minorities groups alway had to struggle with the majorities groups. Killing is HUMAN NATURE way of live.

Peace will come when the killing is done. Whatever happenning in Laos stay in Laos. UN ain't going to know sh*t.

It easier to say "move forward" while you living in the house then those guys who is living in the jungle.( I used been there, I knew)

Hatre, Creed,Corrupt and selfish is in our human blood since God had created us.( Asking yourself)


Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by LaoCowboy on 18th May, 2011 at 12:57pm
People change and only time will tell.

Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by Lao LXE on 18th May, 2011 at 9:49pm
Throughout the history of mankind there's alway war and conflict. What I like about Laos is peace and stability.
:)


PEACE wrote on 18th May, 2011 at 12:57pm:
People change and only time will tell.


Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 20th May, 2011 at 12:45am
36yrs the killing is still going on, it never stop. Most ppl do not known.

Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by Lao LXE on 20th May, 2011 at 4:57am
Why don't insurgent just lay down their armed? It's time of peace and moving forward. War been over. Insurgent can never defeated Laos and Vietnam. Unless you got nuke. Hehe just kidding.
8-)


Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 20th May, 2011 at 12:45am:
36yrs the killing is still going on, it never stop. Most ppl do not known.


Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by WantLaosToBeIndependence on 20th May, 2011 at 6:25am
Just little small groups(Insurgents) without no support from the outsider and trying to survine in the jungle, just want to have a freedom.

Yes, some of them had came out but most of those guys been disappeared without trace.

Do like Thailand did during 1981-82, Thai king had called on ( Thai-Communist) to come out from the jungle without punishment and free as the citizen. At that moment there were about 90% of them were laid down their arms and 10% been follow in less than 6 months.

Presently this folks leader was death. They are the lost people in the jungle. They don't know whom can be trust. This is major problem.

I myself just pray for them and be wonder when the Laos Govt is going to come up with new solution to find peace.


Title: Re: Viet, Lao Uprising 28 Viet-Hmong Protesters Killed
Post by Lao LXE on 20th May, 2011 at 6:49am
What we need is peace not war.
:)

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