There are many who believe that this great country (United States of America) will soon collapse. Please read the attached URL then let me know what you think.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/12/06/america_collapse_2025

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/12/06/america_collapse_2025/md_horiz.jpg

Very convincing that it will happen.  We do not really manufacture/produce anything anymore to export to other countries.  The US is only making movies and music and other than that, nothing :'(.

If anything happen it's our own fault. The $15 trillion national debt will mess us up. War in Iraq and Afghanistan which cost taxpayer about $5 billion a month doesn't help. Expert say China will overtake U.S economies in 2016. Another reason China is rising because many Western nation invested there. Either way in 21 st century you can't really competed with 1.3 billion Chinese.
8-)

Big copration are sending jobs oversea for cheaper labor. Then import those goods to sell in the U.S. That mean more profits for the company, and avoid business taxes.
;) :o


PEACE wrote on 26^th Apr, 2011 at 5:37pm:

Very convincing that it will happen.  We do not really manufacture/produce anything anymore to export to other countries.  The US is only making movies and music and other than that, nothing :'(.

llX wrote on 26^th Apr, 2011 at 9:52pm:

Big copration are sending jobs oversea for cheaper labor. Then import those goods back to sell in the U.S. That mean more profits for the company, and avoid business taxes. In another word "greed". ;) :o PEACE wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 5:37pm: Very convincing that it will happen.  We do not really manufacture/produce anything anymore to export to other countries.  The US is only making movies and music and other than that, nothing :'(.

Yep. 'Greed' is the perfect word. 'Everything happens for a reason'.That's my favourite quote.

Thanks to NAFTA, many businesses left the US and went down to Mexico for cheap labour :(.

I remember when the Soviet Union collapsed, there were so many people here in the USA that were so happy.

Our excuse for a big military was over, but the government found so many more (or invented some); my point is we never cut back on our enormous defense budget.

Another thing, after the "Energy Crisis of the 70's, we did little to find alternate fuels, or develop more sources of resources. Look at Brazil, they hardly import any fossil fuels. Why America didn't follow suit is anyone's guess.

Interestingly enough, the US Government is already ready for this collapse. If they are ready, then there is (my opinion) a good chance that they anticipate that it will indeed happen.

Here's a couple of links...

http://lisat2.multiply.com/journal/item/205/PROTOCOLS_FOR_ECONOMIC_COLLAPSE_IN_AMERICA

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/12/Force-majeure-economic-collapse-618177

William. "Another thing, after the "Energy Crisis of the 70's, we did little to find alternate fuels, or develop more sources of resources. Look at Brazil, they hardly import any fossil fuels. Why America didn't follow suit is anyone's guess."

If America follow Brazil that mean million and million of people, gas station, oil company will lose their jobs and make less profits. Its bad for business. They has electric car in the 80's, but they didn't allow it into production.
:)

"Greed", but big business, corporation is the one who created jobs and opportunity. There's pro and con. Question is how do you balance the influences? Working class and super rich.
;)


Larb Dip wrote on 26^th Apr, 2011 at 10:51pm:

llX wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 9:52pm: Big copration are sending jobs oversea for cheaper labor. Then import those goods back to sell in the U.S. That mean more profits for the company, and avoid business taxes. In another word "greed". ;) :o PEACE wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 5:37pm: Very convincing that it will happen.  We do not really manufacture/produce anything anymore to export to other countries.  The US is only making movies and music and other than that, nothing :'(. Yep. 'Greed' is the perfect word. 'Everything happens for a reason'.That's my favourite quote.

If technology becomes "outdated" because of new technological advances then it makes sense that those jobs would end and new occupations would arise.

History is full of examples, and I am sure that many of us can name quite a few off the top of our heads, so I won't go into that here.

If petroleum workers (broadest sense of the term) lost their jobs, then I am sure, because of new technology, many would find new jobs because of the new advancements in alternate energy technology.

Agreed. When there's a will, there's a way. Layoff worker can go back to school and updates their skilled. Japan is a good example most of their worker are highly skilled, company used technology, robots. For unskilled work they send them oversea.
:)


wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 6:18am:

If technology becomes "outdated" because of new technological advances then it makes sense that those jobs would end and new occupations would arise. History is full of examples, and I am sure that many of us can name quite a few off the top of our heads, so I won't go into that here. If petroleum workers (broadest sense of the term) lost their jobs, then I am sure, because of new technology, many would find new jobs because of the new advancements in alternate energy technology.

I am pro corporation.  Whoever came up with the idea, started a company and then create thousands of jobs people then this person(s) should be rewarded nicely for creating those jobs.


llX wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 6:16am:

"Greed", but big business, corporation is the one who created jobs and opportunity. There's pro and con. Question is how do you balance the influences? Working class and super rich. ;) Larb Dip wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 10:51pm: llX wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 9:52pm: Big copration are sending jobs oversea for cheaper labor. Then import those goods back to sell in the U.S. That mean more profits for the company, and avoid business taxes. In another word "greed". ;) :o PEACE wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 5:37pm: Very convincing that it will happen.  We do not really manufacture/produce anything anymore to export to other countries.  The US is only making movies and music and other than that, nothing :'(. Yep. 'Greed' is the perfect word. 'Everything happens for a reason'.That's my favourite quote.

I'm in a middle I'm for working class, union and pro-business, big corporation. Government need to cut business taxes from the current 35% and do whatever to help company stay in America and stay in business. If not because of big corporation we wouldn't have a jobs. At the same time people need to make a living wages to feed their family. Government also has to regulated and monitor these business, lobbyist. There are fraud, and corruption too.

That's why there's so many jobs and opportunity in America because everywhere you look and turn there is a company, business, corporation, and these business need worker.
:) ;)



PEACE wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 11:29am:

I am pro corporation.  Whoever came up with the idea, started a company and then create thousands of jobs people then this person(s) should be rewarded nicely for creating those jobs. llX wrote on 27th Apr, 2011 at 6:16am: "Greed", but big business, corporation is the one who created jobs and opportunity. There's pro and con. Question is how do you balance the influences? Working class and super rich. ;) Larb Dip wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 10:51pm: llX wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 9:52pm: Big copration are sending jobs oversea for cheaper labor. Then import those goods back to sell in the U.S. That mean more profits for the company, and avoid business taxes. In another word "greed". ;) :o PEACE wrote on 26th Apr, 2011 at 5:37pm: Very convincing that it will happen.  We do not really manufacture/produce anything anymore to export to other countries.  The US is only making movies and music and other than that, nothing :'(. Yep. 'Greed' is the perfect word. 'Everything happens for a reason'.That's my favourite quote.

If you guys want proof that America is falling apart, keep an eye on the currency.  I remembered 1 euro=$.91.  Now, it dropped to an all time low of $.68 to 1 euro.  It'll keep dropping.  If you see what's going on in the middle east, that's exactly what will happen in the US eventually.  You also may have notice companies are in demand for gold, asking YOU to sell.  There are so many things going on right now it's hard to imagine of the possibilities.  Once the dollar becomes non-existent, here's my prediction.  Society will cease to function, there will be chaos in the country, Marshall law, and the possibility of WW3 happening is pretty high.

I too have been watching the dollar deflate. When my wife came over here in 2005, One dollar could be exchanged for 12,000 kip. Now it is only a little over 8000. Don't invest in Euros. Buy gold, silver, or put your money in foreign banks in marks, franks or yen. Best of luck to everyone.

There's chaos already but not full-blown yet.  Eventually there will be no middle-class. It's either you have it or you don't.


OMD wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 4:24pm:

If you guys want proof that America is falling apart, keep an eye on the currency.  I remembered 1 euro=$.91.  Now, it dropped to an all time low of $.68 to 1 euro.  It'll keep dropping.  If you see what's going on in the middle east, that's exactly what will happen in the US eventually.  You also may have notice companies are in demand for gold, asking YOU to sell.  There are so many things going on right now it's hard to imagine of the possibilities.  Once the dollar becomes non-existent, here's my prediction.  Society will cease to function, there will be chaos in the country, Marshall law, and the possibility of WW3 happening is pretty high.

Now I'm started to worry. Whatever happen there's not much we can do. I think in Florida they has gold machine like when you buy pop. And you can buy them as much as you want. Some states want gold as their reserve. Not dollars.
:D


wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 5:55pm:

I too have been watching the ddollar deflate. When my wife came over here in 2005, One dollar could be exchanged for 12,000 kip. Now it is only a little over 8000. Don't invest in Euros. Buy gold, silver, or put your money in foreign banks in marks, franks or yen. Best of luck to everyone.

I know what you're talking about. What you're saying is true. Sound like New World Order.
:o :-?


OMD wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 4:24pm:

If you guys want proof that America is falling apart, keep an eye on the currency.  I remembered 1 euro=$.91.  Now, it dropped to an all time low of $.68 to 1 euro.  It'll keep dropping.  If you see what's going on in the middle east, that's exactly what will happen in the US eventually.  You also may have notice companies are in demand for gold, asking YOU to sell.  There are so many things going on right now it's hard to imagine of the possibilities.  Once the dollar becomes non-existent, here's my prediction.  Society will cease to function, there will be chaos in the country, Marshall law, and the possibility of WW3 happening is pretty high.

The Australian $ has already surpassed the USA version.

llX wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 9:28pm:

I know what you're talking about. What you're saying is true. Sound like New World Order. :o :-? OMD wrote on 27th Apr, 2011 at 4:24pm: If you guys want proof that America is falling apart, keep an eye on the currency.  I remembered 1 euro=$.91.  Now, it dropped to an all time low of $.68 to 1 euro.  It'll keep dropping.  If you see what's going on in the middle east, that's exactly what will happen in the US eventually.  You also may have notice companies are in demand for gold, asking YOU to sell.  There are so many things going on right now it's hard to imagine of the possibilities.  Once the dollar becomes non-existent, here's my prediction.  Society will cease to function, there will be chaos in the country, Marshall law, and the possibility of WW3 happening is pretty high.

Notice this entire planet is changing...good or bad I don't know but it is happening. All the sudden mother nature's acting up with such violent manner toward japan, other countries, then 3-4 states here with countless tornado storms, flood, etc...Then we see civil war occurring around the world. Then we have the financial/economic collapse.  Now we have Wikileaks exposing government plans and goals.  Next we have the entertainment industry making movies revolving around 2012 "the end of the world or time".  Although, I don't believe the end of the world prediction, but, i do believe catastrophe is in the works.  Something huge is happening.  Regardless of what will or could happen, we just have to live our lives as best we can and learn to love one another more instead of hate.

There's a lot of stuff going on around the world. It's getting close to 2012. Last year and this year they has a record tornado in the U.S around 250. Let wait and see not much we can do. We can't fight against mother nature.
;)

I call it karma! Japan did kill million during the 2th world-war..and the American started the war..in Korea, South-East Asia.The Middle-East...Africa thinking it self the world police flexing the power over other nations... it's time to pay...........  

Tee wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 12:11pm:

I call it karma! Japan did kill million during the 2th world-war..and the American started the war..in Korea, South-East Asia.The Middle-East...Africa thinking it self the world police flexing the power over other nations... it's time to pay...........

But why does so many innocent people have to pay for the evil their countries do?

Tee wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 12:11pm:

I call it karma! Japan did kill million during the 2th world-war..and the American started the war..in Korea, South-East Asia.The Middle-East...Africa thinking it self the world police flexing the power over other nations... it's time to pay...........

I don't think it's karma.  It's part of life, we live and we die.  It has already been predetermined if you are a religious person.

wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 5:42pm:

Tee wrote on 28th Apr, 2011 at 12:11pm: I call it karma! Japan did kill million during the 2th world-war..and the American started the war..in Korea, South-East Asia.The Middle-East...Africa thinking it self the world police flexing the power over other nations... it's time to pay...........   But why does so many innocent people have to pay for the evil their countries do?

Life has already been predetermined.  It's also fair to say they are the fortunate ones to leave, because, from what we see now...the world is not a so- called friendly place anymore.  There are too many strict rules and regulation enforced now, it's nearly impossible to live a normal life.  

I think WWIII will be between the West and China, Russia.
:o

We are not in position of power. The leader decide if we live or die. Going to war or not.
:-?


wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 5:42pm:

Tee wrote on 28th Apr, 2011 at 12:11pm: I call it karma! Japan did kill million during the 2th world-war..and the American started the war..in Korea, South-East Asia.The Middle-East...Africa thinking it self the world police flexing the power over other nations... it's time to pay...........   But why does so many innocent people have to pay for the evil their countries do?

llX wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 9:05pm:

I think WWIII will be between the West and China, Russia. :o

China has already began the War...but it call Economic war...Make other nation relies on their goods....and The service war will come next..... American already relies on the China money to keep economic alive. China is also hungry for Commodity to feed the Manufacture and have heavily buy off Australian Mining company and invest mining in Africa too. when their control all the big mining they can control the price and the $2 shop in American can go up to $20 shop....and you guess right...we have no choice,but pay for it...
:-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Chinese is the Jewish of the Asia...one thing about Chinese they do tell you who they are..but Jewish will hide...their identity.....

OMD wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 4:24pm:

If you guys want proof that America is falling apart, keep an eye on the currency.  I remembered 1 euro=$.91.  Now, it dropped to an all time low of $.68 to 1 euro.  It'll keep dropping.  If you see what's going on in the middle east, that's exactly what will happen in the US eventually.  You also may have notice companies are in demand for gold, asking YOU to sell.  There are so many things going on right now it's hard to imagine of the possibilities.  Once the dollar becomes non-existent, here's my prediction.  Society will cease to function, there will be chaos in the country, Marshall law, and the possibility of WW3 happening is pretty high.

Correction to the confusion of my earlier post in regards to the currency scale: $1.00 US to .68 euro and also $1.00 US to .91 euro.. I typed and posted too quickly without thinking clearly. I apologize for my carelessness and stupidity.  I didn't realize it until I re-read the post again today. lol  

Tee wrote on 29^th Apr, 2011 at 2:26am:

llX wrote on 28th Apr, 2011 at 9:05pm: I think WWIII will be between the West and China, Russia. :o China has already began the War...but it call Economic war...Make other nation relies on their goods....and The service war will come next..... American already relies on the China money to keep economic alive. China is also hungry for Commodity to feed the Manufacture and have heavily buy off Australian Mining company and invest mining in Africa too. when their control all the big mining they can control the price and the $2 shop in American can go up to $20 shop....and you guess right...we have no choice,but pay for it... :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Yep, fuel prices continue to go up.  Right now, it's $4.30 and increasing, in a matter of time it'll hit $9-10 per gallon.  Food prices are going up too.  It's time to stock on necessary goods, buy land, gold, silver, and possibly switch currency.  Don't wait, when the day comes...you might regret it.

In Minnesota gas is $3.85 per gallon. When gas go up so does everything else.
:o


OMD wrote on 29^th Apr, 2011 at 3:09am:

Tee wrote on 29th Apr, 2011 at 2:26am: llX wrote on 28th Apr, 2011 at 9:05pm: I think WWIII will be between the West and China, Russia. :o China has already began the War...but it call Economic war...Make other nation relies on their goods....and The service war will come next..... American already relies on the China money to keep economic alive. China is also hungry for Commodity to feed the Manufacture and have heavily buy off Australian Mining company and invest mining in Africa too. when their control all the big mining they can control the price and the $2 shop in American can go up to $20 shop....and you guess right...we have no choice,but pay for it... :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Yep, fuel prices continue to go up.  Right now, it's $4.30 and increasing, in a matter of time it'll hit $9-10 per gallon.  Food prices are going up too.  It's time to stock on necessary goods, buy land, gold, silver, and possibly switch currency.  Don't wait, when the day comes...you might regret it.

You're right on the money. China will become largest economies, passing the U.S in 2016 expert say.
::)


Tee wrote on 29^th Apr, 2011 at 2:26am:

llX wrote on 28th Apr, 2011 at 9:05pm: I think WWIII will be between the West and China, Russia. :o China has already began the War...but it call Economic war...Make other nation relies on their goods....and The service war will come next..... American already relies on the China money to keep economic alive. China is also hungry for Commodity to feed the Manufacture and have heavily buy off Australian Mining company and invest mining in Africa too. when their control all the big mining they can control the price and the $2 shop in American can go up to $20 shop....and you guess right...we have no choice,but pay for it... :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

If U.S collapse in 2025. I'll be 58 year old and already retire in Laos. I think there'll be WWIII soon and everything will collapse, not just the U.S because everybody got nuke, chemical and biological weapon. Humanity can wipe each other out. Greed, money and power is what's wrong with this world.
;)

We pay for $5.67 in Australia Dollar
1.00 USD      = 0.916843 AUD
So..you can see we pay a lot more than you.....

Holy cow $5.67, that mean it might go up higher here too. In Europe they pay about $6-$7 per gallon, but I'm not sure.
:o


Tee wrote on 29^th Apr, 2011 at 5:21am:

We pay for $5.67 in Australia Dollar 1.00 USD      = 0.916843 AUD So..you can see we pay a lot more than you.....

llX wrote on 29^th Apr, 2011 at 5:47am:

Holy cow $5.67, that mean it might go up higher here too. In Europe they pay about $6-$7 per gallon, but I'm not sure. :o Tee wrote on 29th Apr, 2011 at 5:21am: We pay for $5.67 in Australia Dollar 1.00 USD      = 0.916843 AUD So..you can see we pay a lot more than you.....

Across the European Union, the average cost of a gallon of gas runs to about $8.70 — more than twice what Americans are shelling out to fill up.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1809900,00.html

llX wrote on 29^th Apr, 2011 at 5:47am:

Holy cow $5.67, that mean it might go up higher here too. In Europe they pay about $6-$7 per gallon, but I'm not sure. :o Tee wrote on 29th Apr, 2011 at 5:21am: We pay for $5.67 in Australia Dollar 1.00 USD      = 0.916843 AUD So..you can see we pay a lot more than you.....

In Europe, they pay $8-10 per gallon, because their cost of living is higher, basically, their salary is higher.  It's the same as we are paying here in the US.  I don't know about Australia, I guess it depends on the oil company they are contracted with.  Also, war and chaos is the main reason or excuse for these greedy corporations.

Most European also used electric car, nitrogen, subway. The prices will increase because less people use gasoline.
;)

Most country in Europe have a very good public transport and it's cheaper to use public transport. their territory, it's as big as small state in American and Australia.if I live there...I don't need to have car......

llX wrote on 30^th Apr, 2011 at 1:34am:

Most European also used electric car, nitrogen, subway. The prices will increase because less people use gasoline. ;)

Here's a whistle blower website article I found that's very interesting read in regards to fuel solution.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19494-Inventor-Survives-10-Murder-Attempts-to-Release...

OMD wrote on 30^th Apr, 2011 at 6:15pm:

llX wrote on 30th Apr, 2011 at 1:34am: Most European also used electric car, nitrogen, subway. The prices will increase because less people use gasoline. ;) Here's a whistle blower website article I found that's very interesting read in regards to fuel solution. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19494-Inventor-Survives-10-Murder-Attempts-to-Release...

That guy turned down $1B (so he says).
I gotta question his motive.  If he's not going to make money off this king of thing, then someone ELSE will!

That's true.
;)


Tee wrote on 30^th Apr, 2011 at 8:08am:

Most country in Europe have a very good public transport and it's cheaper to use public transport. their territory, it's as big as small state in American and Australia.if I live there...I don't need to have car......