In past, our grandparents had pride
Nowaday, we(majority of us)have no pride ( most of us never admitted always denied)

WE ARE DISGRACE OURSELVES

FEEL FREE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS

Lao pride is still alive, certainly in Laos. People are proud to be Laotians who value the Lao culture and tradition.

Expatriates like yourself who come from a Lao ethnic background but live in the United States probably don't live the Lao way of life due to the environment you live in. The overseas Laotians have been away from Laos for over 20 or 30 years, and many were born outside of Laos so they live a more western lifestyle and it's understandable since they interact with western people.

People will always be proud to be a Lao person because that's the blood that runs through their veins. We are all different and how people choose to live their life is acceptable. If some people do things to disgrace themselves, they don't disgrace Laos as a whole.

God never created our human being to be perfect
We all the sinners, we most likely made mistake but hardly to admitted is just a part of our nature. The corruptors will never go out and tell the public" I took the money " just like the thieves they never going to tell you " I stole your stuff".

I myself " you called me: Patikan,Traitor or American Dicksuckker"
I might be a Patikan or Traitor but I let the American SuckmyDick, this is FACT ( you can ask any Lao-Exile living in the US or somewhere else )
We tend to have pride in this. Not like you guys living in Laos.( sucking the foriegners Cocks for 200,000kip = $20) the whor* houses is everywhere in Laos( this is FACT ) Don't deny!

We(expatriates or exiles) might had disgrace ourselves sometimes like (culture and tradition)we didn't followed or cared too much about it while we have hard time to adjust ourselvese to the environment we are living in. Its not easy to say then done. Time and Place are not the same in Laos.

You guys need to learn how to admit sometime ( right or wrong is norm to our human being)

* Don't get mad at me Ok*
I just telling the true

These days, 200,000 kip is around $24 US.

You haven't been to Laos so I don't think you should be stating the facts about the country.

You sound angry. I don't think you understand what I'm saying. It's acceptable to adjust to western culture, if I lived in America I wouldn't go to the Buddhist temple that often or dress in a traditional Lao clothing. I probably wouldn't even think about Laos because I'll be busy with work and life. While in America or another western country, it is likely that Lao people will adapt to their way of life and that's normal.

This guy is very Angry, and don't know much about Laos,
Please don't generalise every girl in Laos would do that! I am think that you probably got hurt by a Laotian girl before and try to used this forum to let out your steam.
Do think the Laotian girl in The West don't do what local girl do? I think not!   I know you have been discriminated by the White all you life and I am sure you still get that.... being racist to your own that is unforgivable.    

Thanks Buck Tee, for dop by......What's up mate?
You are about 44 yrs old right, Lao-Australian-Communist, and claimed to have a degree in what field? let me, make it clear for you, since you got 2 eyes but could not see. Read the topic and subject what did it saying? Don't get mad ok.... I knew you do. Look at it. Read it and try to understand "what is he doing?". Deep.

Thanks again, I have nothing to against you. you can be the communist living in west is norm by the laws.

Most lao ppl never admitted about bad or negative things in their lives times that much. This is Fact. Why some of us are living in the 3rd countries instead of living in Laos? use your brain in good maner Ok.

Be kind to those who kind to you,
     Lao bor kai Zard( sell only used car)

Hi Used car sales man

Firstly. I don't get angry(Angry is mean weakness)I get even mate! I put all these Subject up just to pees your off. you just like a fish to me all I have to do just show that bait and you just got hook.

I guest that the only job you can get right now in the USA with this economic ruin in your not so great adopted country.

Let me reply a few of your commons on the last post!
I am not 44 years old mate. if you read and add up all the years that I have gone through. you should know how old am I!(Do you want my finger to count?) I wonder how can you get to be a used car salesman. because you can't add number mate.
I can't be a communist because I am in business for over 20 years now.  I don't have a big degree to show you but I have over 20 people working for me that holding master degree.
I have 2 eye and also have so many experiences in life than you. I have gone through what your parent has gone through. I understand that you angry because you parent has lose every things they own and the suffering. (I was there too) Most of the high and low rank in power now have nothing to do with what happened 35 years ago. The Laotian there now have nothing to do with happened too. Please don't look down on them

Look at the country now and compare to 35 years ago. I would say, the people now is a lot happy that before. they have a peaceful environment to live in.(No war)
Have many Highway and the telecommunication is 100% better than before.
They are many building have gone up, The banking system is almost good and we have a privately own Laos-bank that have branch in all the city. this is one of the main point,Laos is not a communist any more.
you are making so much remark about racism here. Surely you have gone to that racist in your life in USA. When those white or the black say that kind of remark to you over there. How would you feel? Laos is full of many ethics race live in together. I would welcome everyone come to help build Laos. Have a nice

Wow...you guys are pretty serious and sensitive people...lol

Don't worry Jason,

They are just VENTING their anger about what happened 35 years ago.
No Harm.

I'm still upset but I have moved on...I'm living a better life today than if I were to be in Laos still.  We must learn to FORGIVE, but NEVER FORGET! 8-)

There's no doubt that the older generation will never forget the hardships suffered by themselves and their families during the war, but many have moved on by now and it's no longer a hot topic in their daily conversations.

The new generation like myself who never witnessed the atrocious events in Lao history are lucky, but at the same time I have empathy towards my fellow Laotians who were caught up in the war then were treated unjustly in Thai refugee camps.

I know what am I doing....I didn't born yesterday, Hot or Cold, Respect or Disrespect I knew. You had said: You and your comrades had created this website for "all walk of lives " feel free to join and purpose on the aboard said ( DISCUSSION ABOUT LAOS ) to me; I understood, Round and Clear............( its not about me or Buck Tee ) correct me if I'm wrong?

Purpose of my intention : Want Laos to be Free
Poor or Rich we are Laotians. We need to stand on ours feet. If we can't do it then we have no pride of our own. Look at East Germany.

Hi Wantlaotobeindependen!

I am glad,I have contributed to your understanding. You are attract people that have nothing to do with what happened long time ago.Please let "by gone be by gone" I am sure Laos will be free the short distance future. We have many Laos Student study aboard right now. these people will come home will education and new idea and they will be the people in power in the future. Please be patient!  This are the Website:
http://lss.awardspace.info/
http://www.freewebs.com/laostudents/index.htm
http://www.laostudents.blogspot.com/
http://www.laos.embassy.gov.au/vtan/AusAID_14-01-2008.html
I am sure this students will come back with a knowledge and new Idea. You and me is old now let the young fly.We just set back and relax....I am very sure,we will live to see Laos be free and prosperous!

After 35 years, I'm starting to get impatient.

We weren't waiting for the young to learn and get educated. We were waiting for the hard line communist to finally die and now they did, well most of them anyways. Now power is finally being shifted and the Laos Berlin wall is starting to crumble, the flood gates are about to open.

I don't mean to be negative but I've seen the students in laos and they need another 35 years just to catch up with the rest of the world. They pay for their grades if they are rich, they don't earn them. They drool over my western degree, and idolize anyone who carries a laptop. I'm a realist not a dreamer, nor am I willing to wait to see what others will do with my future. The people in Laos can't take control of their own destiny cause they can't even vote for their own gov't. Most can't or don't have a computer nor internet. It is not that the people in Laos are getting smarter, it is the commies who are dying and losing power that is "freeing up" the country. Foreign investment is what's developing the country and they are milking the profits while the Lao are still poor. We can't help them with our western views, they are too stubborn to listen to us even though we've been all over the world and most of them haven't even stepped foot out of their hometown in Laos. (One family asked my dad if he would take them to the north of laos cause they've never been, yet they've lived in Laos their whole life, they didn't know how to go.)

I'll ask this again, where are all the so called educated lao youths on this internet board? All I see is us Lao westerners and the Admin, bickering over these same issues that have not changed for over 35 years.

My father's friend in laos wants me to bring his daughter here to the west to study. I told him she would cry if I brought her here cause she wouldn't be able to survive. They would eat her alive, and you all know it.

Lao students need another 35 years to catch up with the rest of the world is way over exaggerating.

Most Lao people have stepped out of their hometown, maybe they just haven't been to northern Laos. I'm sure you haven't seen many parts of America either.

I don't think any Lao youths will want to see this internet board if you look down on them like a neanderthal.

Hi Admin

I agree with you. I would expect around 5-10 the living of the people will change to be better and about 15 year. most of the Young gun will be in power! And I am so happy that I will live to see Laos going to be prosperous! by that time I probably retire and can freely stay in Laos to lent my helping hand.

If Laos continues to improve in all areas from education to health care and the economy progresses, the country will become an even better place to live in.

 Sabaidee Sa Hy Communist, ( Hi Communist comrade)
when you read these phrases try to make your accent like ppl from Northern Laos Okay...Its sound better...
" Sa Hy Sa Hy, Hoa Nee Het Kaan Pa Tee Vat Maa Dai 30 pee "

Hello Buck Tee, Most of my best friends I called them "Buck" too. And according to the "Thai Dum" culture. And another thing is your username have no meaning. You're educated in Australia but you're still living in the Communist Cave. Look at my username " WantlaosToBeIndependence" comparing to your "Tee" I love to play golf mate.Let me use you for my golf game this weekend so I will drive my 2balls to Buck Choummaly's mouth. This is my intention. You got it mate. I said its Ok to get mad. Its this tell you anything. Hay Hay Calm Down. Its Ok to be mad. Let it out OK , Get even with me alright, throw some more baits I am your fish.(I never denied) I won't mind to be your fish. You need to remember I am not just little fish OK.

To be real nice with you, You don't know me and I don't know you. And I don't think you are older than me. I knew you not dumb-ass your are very smart-ass. Since you started read my comments have you got anything in your mind. Can you sake it loose. I don't think so. But that Ok mate, Lock it in there and tell all your friends what haven I said. I am very bad man, I have no respect to you or your sorry-ass presidents. I didn't do this for me, I did for you and Lao ppl are still living in Laos, I want them to be free...free like me..

I am a " worthless Laotian Refugee", poor and broke, I have no home,land and country. I hate the USA and I also don't like the Communist. I like freedom, I love "freedom of speech" do you understand these words? to me; I don't think you do mate, I couldn't blamed you. They brainwash you. You educated in the West but you are still the Communist.

Hay mate drop me a line Ok, say whatever you wish.......anythings let it out...

After reading your post!  I feel so sorry for you. You are a Thai Dum . it's one of the race that suffer the most in Laos since the war of Dien Bien Phu. and have to keep moving until some of you move to Pon Keng(Near the Army camp) I exactly live near there. My first love is also to a Thai Dum girl. She is so kind and beautiful, but you are the opposite to all the Thai Dum I knew.
You have been to a Land of opportunist(USA)What happened Mate? most people did make something for them self in USA. The people that didn't make it are:
                               Lazy
                               Daydreamer
                               Gambling
                               Maybe Anger
I can assure you that I am at least 7-9 year older than you! Don't assume everyone that someone can Type faster and know about computer is the people younger than you! There is no age limit for learning. I still go to school 2 night a week just to keep up with the changing world.

THANKS BUCK TEE, YOU SEEM TO KNOWN EVERYTHING ABOUT ME

I GUESS I AM TO STUPID FOR THIS GAME.....

Thanks SS,
 

This is all a game to you. So You have show me your true colour. it's a Shame you have to get so angry with your life! Anger doesn't make you a better person you should know by now......

Yeb, Do you have a problem with that, or You want me to move to Australia and live next you, is that what you want?

Say fool, I am too poor dog. I had asked you to spit out my 2balls off your mouth but you didn't......How many times do I have to tell you..

Have you ever used the words " I do apology "  creating your owe words or ideas would sound better than used someone's else....

Oh man, you have( C1V1 ) I can cure you.... I guess I have to leave you the way you are...

The phrase I had used " I GUESS I AM TO STUPID FOR THIS GAME"
you still couldn't see thru that...Oh man.."I" is "You/Tee" not "Me"

Lao-Communist-Australia-Educator with the C1V1; You are a really dumb-ass....Maybe you need to come to America get the real education here mate. WELCOME TO AMERICA.

Do not guess...   I am real bad guy. Bad to the bone. You don't want to know me....and I ain't going to wasting my times with your sorry-ass........U posted want Laos to be " Indochina " only " Keow (Viet) " did like that.  You are too sorry.....

Have a nightmare, ( I knew my messages was clear and strong ) I got you guys attention. Its went thru.....ha ha ha....Nee Kon Lao Bor Kai Zard....

Dear WantLaosToBeIndependence

Yep...let out all your anger....you will feel better...... I realise it by now...you will never change your idea about your thought... you are just like someone have hang on to a racked piece of wood in the middle of the sea. for so long and you will continue to hold on to that piece of wood until the rest of you life.....

You do not except the new idea, new solution, you may as well living in the cave era. Stop using all the technology and move back to live in the cave...........and I bet you probably have Chinese and Mongolian  DNA in your genes, That is all of us are coming from.......Stop racist remark...you are just as bad as those KKK in American.

Dear wantlaotobeindependence

You are just as bad as this current government! if they can't get what they want, they will send you to re-educated camp. in your case you probably kill any one that is not agree with you.

You talking about the current government not good as this not good as that! Well give any solution to fix those problems. for example:
Education
Economic and Job prospect
Law and Order

Bear in mind! Laos have no money in the draw. Laos depending on Aid almost 100% of their economy. all three Example do need  money to fix it. Mr Tough Guy... Could you just give me a slice of sneak Preview of you Idea please!  

Let the hate flow...

Man I have to let yall know how I represented my LAO PRIDE til I die over here!
First of all I have noticed most TRU LAO they all have their unique ways to represent that they are Lao any where and every where they went.
All the races (Black, White, Latina, Khmer, Viet, Chinese, Japanese and even Korean that they knew me they highly repected Khone Lao and they even go further by eating sticky rice with jeow bong and eat hot spicy ass Tum-mak-houng that I made for them. They love that, especially girls, tried to impress me that they too can eat hot spicy Lao's foods like Lao girls.  ;)
It's safe to say that I have influented many lost Lao to be full Lao and wannabe Lao to learn Lao. I'm so proud of myself that I still know how to read, write and speak Lao fruently  :)
That How Tru LAO I am always faithful  to my Buddhist religion, Culture and Tradition. And I'm still young buhahaha..beat that suckers j/k  :)

Thavada Please I'm begging you Could you make all Khone Lao love one others and let us Lao Stand United and move forward to better are selves and build better love and peaceful place for :-/ 1000000s future Lao generations to come.

There will always be people like this in the world no matter where you live.  An opportunity is given to them to make a difference in life, instead, they choose to remain at the bottom of the food chain.  "Wantlaotobeindependen" , change your life to better yourself. In other words have a set future/goal.  Once you accomplish this, you can go back to Laos and make a difference in peoples lives.  Believe me, once all our people are educated, Laos will be free and independent again.  Also, you will have less venting.  :)

OLD GENERATION HAD PRIDE ( OUR FATHER FATHER )
NEW GENERATION HAVE NO PRIDE ( WE ARE TRASH )

PRESENTLY, I HAVE NO HOME , LAND AND COUNTRY.
WHO AM I? BORN AND RAISED IN LAOS BUT LIVING IN AMERICA LAND.

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 25^th Dec, 2009 at 5:31pm:

In past, our grandparents had pride Nowaday, we(majority of us)have no pride ( most of us never admitted always denied) WE ARE DISGRACE OURSELVES FEEL FREE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS

You might want to consider going on a meditation retreat in a nice Wat and deal with your anger......

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 21^st Mar, 2010 at 10:46pm:

OLD GENERATION HAD PRIDE ( OUR FATHER FATHER ) NEW GENERATION HAVE NO PRIDE ( WE ARE TRASH ) PRESENTLY, I HAVE NO HOME , LAND AND COUNTRY. WHO AM I? BORN AND RAISED IN LAOS BUT LIVING IN AMERICA LAND.

You do have a home, land, and country. It's called the "United States of America".  Not all the new generation is trash.  Look at the Admin for example, I know she wants the things that we want  here but only limited to what she can do or say.  She is well educated, do you consider her trash too?  You gotta give them a chance.  Once the old die out,  the new and well educated will take over.  They will always have questions and will seek the truth if need be regardless of what the government says.  Even in America, I don't agree 90% of what the politicians (government) tell us. I have to do a research on my own time to determine the merit of what they say.  

? ADMIN, I DO NOT KNOWN HER OR HIM? LIVING IN LAOS OR AUSTRALIA?

ANY LAO MAN OR WOMAN DID NOT BOWED DOWN YOUR HEAD TO OUTSIDER ARE CONSIDERING HAVING PRIDE IN THEMSELVES.

BE POOR IS BETTER THEN BE PUPPET TO SOME ONE ELSE
BE A JANITOR CLEANING UP THE TOILETS IS BETTER THEN BE A HOOKER CLEANING UP SOME ONE DICCK .

WHERE IS LAO PRIDE? WHO IS OUR LEADERS THE ONE YOUR ARE/WERE RESPECTED THE MOST?  BUCK DAI? TELL ME THE NAME?
I REALLY WANT TO KNOWN.......

You guys think that you have a rough time just all of a sudden you must walk across the river 35 years ago just to get a bowl of rice.
I have to put up with the fireworks from the white devil and the yellow peril since I was born, then catch a leaky boat to Malaysia, I still consider I got a better deal, look at those poor soul from Cambodia.
Don't feel too bad about Laos, you guys should be happy about the mild nature of your people and keep it that way, what you don't want is American style democracy (I wonder can you call it democracy?), look at Thailand, Indonasia and Phillippin, you end up selling all your women and still can't afford to pay for a bowl of rice for your population.

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 27^th Mar, 2010 at 8:59am:

? ADMIN, I DO NOT KNOWN HER OR HIM? LIVING IN LAOS OR AUSTRALIA? ANY LAO MAN OR WOMAN DID NOT BOWED DOWN YOUR HEAD TO OUTSIDER ARE CONSIDERING HAVING PRIDE IN THEMSELVES. BE POOR IS BETTER THEN BE PUPPET TO SOME ONE ELSE BE A JANITOR CLEANING UP THE TOILETS IS BETTER THEN BE A HOOKER CLEANING UP SOME ONE DICCK . WHERE IS LAO PRIDE? WHO IS OUR LEADERS THE ONE YOUR ARE/WERE RESPECTED THE MOST?  BUCK DAI? TELL ME THE NAME? I REALLY WANT TO KNOWN.......

Most of the time you wrote in this forum a very impressive article,but some time you don't make any senses to me. I though other you in some kind of influence(alcohol and drug) If you do that! I think you should seek help please. I don't want any Laos going to that path!    

Tee and Macro, Do not guess......

I am who I am....I hate CIA or Sorry-ass KGB
American are not my master and I do not bow down my head to any MF(American,French,Russian,Chinese or Sorry-ass Vietnamese)
I do not like the alcohol or doing any drug. I am none smoker.

My Dad disappearance during 1976, untill now we never heard of him (death or alive). But most of his friends were saying " He did escaped from Re-education Camp but maybe didn't made it out to the Thailand border.

My Dad had 3rd grade education in Laos and my mom had none. They were farmer. He didn't ever known what is CIA mean or Air American during that times.

Your Buck  Nguyen Kaysone,Buck Souphannouvong send my dad to the North to die.

And you guys want me to respect these sorry-ass mother- crappity smacker.

Feel me then you understand the pain I have had to bear for so long.

My family had to went thru the super horrible life in Thailand.
I do not bow my head to the Laos Royal either ( crappity smack-them too)

We used to have home,land and rice paddly in Laos. Presently I have shit. I am as like a slave living in American( working and pay tax)

Do I like the Communist ? I don't
Do I love the American ? I don't , but where can I live?

I am so sorry about what happened to your father! How ever, these people you just mention is not in Power any more! They all on they way to the grave. it's no point holding the anger any more. you can't change what had happened! but you can make the future from happening. What ever happened to your life, you can not blame the other but your self. you told us you wife and children have left you. you can blame that on this Government. you must did something to trickle that reaction. I am not here to tell you how to live our life! but just telling you as a friend to "ah ho sii kum" to those have done all the bad thing to you and your family. like the Buddha said" To forgive is the greatest gift of all"

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 5^th Apr, 2010 at 10:14am:

Tee and Macro, Do not guess...... I am who I am....I hate CIA or Sorry-ass KGB American are not my master and I do not bow down my head to any MF(American,French,Russian,Chinese or Sorry-ass Vietnamese) I do not like the alcohol or doing any drug. I am none smoker. My Dad disappearance during 1976, untill now we never heard of him (death or alive). But most of his friends were saying " He did escaped from Re-education Camp but maybe didn't made it out to the Thailand border. My Dad had 3rd grade education in Laos and my mom had none. They were farmer. He didn't ever known what is CIA mean or Air American during that times. Your Buck  Nguyen Kaysone,Buck Souphannouvong send my dad to the North to die. And you guys want me to respect these sorry-ass mother- crappity smacker. Feel me then you understand the pain I have had to bear for so long. My family had to went thru the super horrible life in Thailand. I do not bow my head to the Laos Royal either ( crappity smack-them too) We used to have home,land and rice paddly in Laos. Presently I have nuts. I am as like a slave living in American( working and pay tax) Do I like the Communist ? I don't Do I love the American ? I don't , but where can I live?

All government systems worldwide are flawed, they claim to do good for the mass but their intention is basically to control.  We are nothing but sheep (slaves) to them.  Nothing will change that, even today.  We just have to live our life and deal with it. Like it or not, we all have to work and pay our taxes.  

You are upset and going through life with so much hatred and pain I understand that. Everyone that fled during the war had the same or similar problems...you are not alone.  We are all born with a purpose.  You just have to keep your head up high and focus on the positive things that life has to offer and try to move forward.  Dwelling too much in the past can deteriorate your health..mentally and physically.

Here's a documentary movie I recommend everyone should watch it's called "Nerakhoon (the betrayal)".  Everyone can relate to this in some way or form.  Like I said you are not alone.  You can watch the movie on Youtube, download it from various websites, or rent it.  I can guarantee, you won't be disappointed.  It helps you with the view of life.

Thank you Jackspade! it's the first time I hear about this documentary. I'd downloaded from Youtube. The tear was doping like a waterfall. it's the best film I have ever watch about Laos... and how we being betrayal by our leader,The Loyal family and specially the American Administrator.