How can we help them?

Give them some money. After all that's what they are doing it for. ::)


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Wrong answer ! Adm, (-1) Do you have a $ dallar sign on your face?

Create the decent jobs

There are decent jobs otherwise everybody would all become a prostitute.

People have a choice in life, they choose that direction because they want quick and easy money.

Working in a decent job is a slow process of earning income.



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60% wrong 40% right + You got mad, so I graded you " F" = "O"
" No one choose to do that job" asking yourself first, Do you want to be a hooker? The answer is" No". There is no way out for them to be in that mess. I had asked 10 hookers wich this question : Do you want your daughters to be like you? I recieved 15 answers " NO ". so you the math. Why 15 out of 10 ?

You right " ppl have chioce in life" but for this option is " NO" Unless that person is real b*tch.

" quick and easy money" I don't think it quick and easy money at all,
to me it quick to get the disease and easy to die.

I'm never mad and I didn't know this was a test. Look, they can get any job. Work in a restaurant as a waitress or go and clean toilets somewhere, it doesn't matter what job it is, a job is a job.

They want to be prostitutes for the money, it's as simple as that. I'm sure they use some kind of protection during sex.

Sometimes Lao girls are abducted or tricked into working as prostitutes in Thailand like the example below:


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Dam*, this is sad. They are very beautiful gals.
One thing I don't think they want to be that way but to feed themselves and families back home that why they turned or get tricked into this sex slaves. This is real bad what do you think? Is there any way we can help them off or shut it down. I thought the Communist is best to hadle this kind of problem. What is matter with the half-Ass Lao Communist?

Just like I had said: If you are a Laos president this kind of bullsh*t won't happenning, right? if Yes, we need to get you up there.

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Is that in Bangcock or Pataya...? Don't tell me that was in Laos?

It is sad that girls are being sold into prostitution but that's how they operate in Laos and Thailand.

The girl in the black tank top holding a glass of drink is the pimp, she is negotiating with the guy. And notice that each girl has a number. All the guy has to do is choose a number that he is interested in and the girl of his choice will accompany him for a drink, and eventually to the bedroom if he wants to have sex.

"Operate in Laos"
I was going to tell you to take off the " LAOPRIDE.COM" out of those pictures you had posted. Its look bad to us. We are laotians have pride and dignity with lovely culture. Leave just only pictures.

"If you can send them over here, I will marry them" they are beautiful
If Lao-Govt can't creating jobs for them why don't send them over here(western countries). We will find them the decent jobs( WELCOME TO USA ) Land of Free.


May God have mercy on them( they been lost )

I believe many of these girls turn to prostitution because it's the last resort.
They have no money, no job, their families at home will go hungry if they do nothing, they can only turn to prostitution. It's a sad cycle of events that will happen over and over again.

It's simple case of supply and demand, where there is a demand for sex , a pimp will always supply. There will always be a demand because people (men) will always want to have sex and reproduce.

I read from wikipedia: "Forty-four percent of the population live below the international poverty line of the equivalent of US$1.25 a day" this is in Laos. For these girls that turn to prostitution it's a way to get out of this poverty line, and the only way to do so is to sell their bodies for money.

I read the Admins comments and I understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinions but i find your quite insensitive to such a sensitive issue. You should really open your eyes. These girls do not enjoy what they do, they have no choice but to do it...to support their families and to survive.

TT, there is no last resort. There are jobs if they are willing to work the hard way and earn a monthly income like other people.

With prostitution, it is very easy to earn quick "cash in hand" every day. They also get free tips and drinks from customers and free accommodation and meals supplied by the pimps who look after them. And not to the mention the enjoyment of socialising every night. They enjoy it, they don't need to support their families. Their parents are old enough to support themselves and it's their responsibility to support their children. If they can't do that then they are not good parents.

Most people in Laos earn more than US$1 a day.

Are you one of them ? If you are, I won't mind at all. Welcome to my Kingdom(US), I be willing to send you a ticket if you want to start a new life, let me know Okay.

"quick cash, easy money,free meal" I don't see that way.
I have seen the POVERTY, NO JOBS, NO SKILLS, NO CONNECTION(to Govt office) and the families are poor. If you look at it, what the options do they have? Nothing

There will be JOBS if the Govt's willing to create
There will be WAYS if the Govt's willing to pave
There will be No prostitutes in Laos if the Lao Govt's willing to cease
There will be No Corruptors in Laos if the Lao Govt's officials are willing to step down

Are you one of their clients? If you are, I won't mind at all because you have to do what you have to do.

Every poor family in Laos would become prostitutes if there weren't any options.

There are always options in life, it's the path you choose that matters.



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I am not only a client I also a president of "WHORE* CLUB FOR WOMEN" ( JUST KIDDING )

Since 1982 I haven't seen Laos yet. I wish one day I will go to see by my own eyes before I die. I heard about it alot of things had changed. Lao people had changed from Lao pride to be Lao prostitutes( I won't blamed them)" you have to do what you have to do to survive in this evil world that God had created it for us to suffer until that day will come". Just like you had said: Lao is not fully Communist( I see ) today Lao is just a Half-Ass Communist( I called: a baby ) still drinking milk from the big brother Vietnam and father Russia.

I like the Fully Communist " North Korea " you will never heard about prostitution in North Korea, This is real hardcore Communism they are for real.....not like China,Vietnam and Russia(Fake-Ass). Laos is just a new born baby to the Communist world.

Open your eyes and ears then you will see and hear

We suffer while we are alive.

That's why when there is a new born baby, we go to "Ngun Gum" in Lao culture. "Gum" is all about stress and misery ahead in life.

And when someone dies, we go to "Hean Dee", meaning "Good house". It is "dee" because they are in peace, there is no more suffering and unhappiness for them.

So remember the words "Ngun Gum" and "Hean Dee". ;D



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You're weird, you're tried to change the subject.

Face with it that where you dwell. Clean it up if you don't like it. its your job. You are the Lao citizen.

HIV or AIDS mean any to you.

Tell your SORRY-ASS president( Ka Attapu ) to clean it up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not changing the subject. I followed on with your comment about suffering, maybe you are having a bad day.

I'm not a politician so it's not my job.

"Bad day" I get mad sometimes(never deny)so What about you?
Who are you and what is your job? What is purpose of this website you and your comrades had created it? To me; you want to have the freedom of expression or you just want to have fun.
Just like I had said it before " I may say somethings you may not like"

"Prostitution in Laos" is disgracing ourselves(Laotians) culture and tradition. Your leadership is lack of knowledge or turned a blind eyes to the people. I do understand for surviving when there is less options for the poor to find the way of making the living.

Today Laos is " The Land of million Hookers" I am Laotian but what can I(we) do? I knew it not nice at least I had admitted can't deny it.
Unless your Sorry-Ass president are willing to clean up this mess or resign (step down) let a new generation take over then Laos will get better.

My job is to administer this forum and Lao Pride is created for people from all walks of life to learn about Laos in a positive way.

You are free to express your opinion but please tell us something that we don't already know. Prostitution is nothing new in Laos and the rest of South-East Asia for that matter. It is their business, if you don't like it then visit the temples instead. Nobody is telling you to associate with prostitutes, I don't like them either but they can do what they want to do in their life.

" 2 Negatives became Positive " without Negative how is going to become positive."

"HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL HOOKERS IN LAOS" I wish you gals make alot of money then quit. Its nasty and disgrace yourself.

with love and care,
Lao Dallas,Tx USA

Okay Mr. Smart.

Happy New Year to all Patikan overseas. We understand you still care and want to do what's best for Laos and we're thankful for that.

Jan 2010

It's time to Clean Up the mess.
If your current president can't do it then it's time for him to resign(step down)
Mr. Bouasone Bouphavanh is new generation, I think he can do a better job than the Old Schools.

" Lao Hookers in Laos and in Thailand " Shame on them ( Communist Dictators )

He is the current Prime Minister.

I think that's a high enough position to take responsibility.

I knew, maybe he really want to do the good things for Laos but behind close door he ain't have a power to stand on his own feet( just an other puppet )

( Mai lum dieng lorm huaw bor kouav pai bor porm saang ban bor heung ) 6.8 mil ppl need to come together.

He is a nice gentlemen.

Interestingly, Laos have a President, a Prime Minister and their deputies.

Most countries just have one of them to govern the country.

well, Just hope

One day I will see Laos again....
Hope to see you too

with love and care,
Lao Dallas,Tx USA ( lao bor kai zard )

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

Good Morning Laos, att: Adm,

To appearance I am very young ( around you )
To the number ( I think you have X2 )

If you really want to know, send the message to my email.

Love those who love you
kind to those who kind to you
Mean to those who mean to you
   

It's okay, it's not important but you've given me a general approximation.

Try to be nice to someone who is mean to you, I know it's hard sometimes but don't take things too seriously.

Last of all, I knew you tried to be nice with me but I am bad guy I can't help it. I was born to be that way. Remember you used to called us " the worthless Laotian Refugee" Yes, I am the one( me )" Ku nee lae " Don't get mad at me Okay.... I am just telling the truth. Nobody would had said like me.
I don't like to lie, I am not liar. I am very honest man( Just sometime)

Well, this subject is about the" The Hookers in Laos"  not about U or I. or unless you are the one of them then that's your bussiness...OK  I have no problem with it. Someone have to make a living oneway or another. Life have to go on.........

No heart feeling,
Lao DFW,TX US(Laos)

I didn't call you a "worthless Laotian refugee". I was having a discussion with another member and he made me mad at the time. Sometimes I don't mean to say the things I say, so I do apologise for that. The Lao refugees are not inferior, I know they are human too.

I knew, I ain't dump. I just use it to remind me of who am I? How we got here and why?  What is future will hold for us? 35 yrs from now where I am going to be? Death or live who'll know? Life is unperdictable.

I love my life more than anything in this world. I have to do the best for myself first before someone else. This my rule : "Help yourself first, If you can't help yourself then you can't help nobody even your own family"

I never blamed those gals who is working in the Ho-House or on the streets. Society made our human being to adapt to environment. Human never have enought, greed and selfish its inside of us.

I wish all yall win the loto and don't give me nothing. I am Ok......

Good luck to all hookers,

I like your rule, and we should always think that way because it is correct.

I believe the girls on the streets have options in life. They just want to live a better lifestyle in the city, but when they return home to their families in the countryside, it's back to wearing the "sinh".

Poverty cause the major damage to our livelihood. Can't blame no one. Human have to find food oneway or another.

If I have nothing to eat I might rob you, simple just like that.
Right or wrong is not up to us. God knew who we are. We were been created to be this way. "Suffer before you die".

That's why when a new baby is born, we go to "Ngan GUM". Gum means lots of suffering ahead.

And when someone dies, we go to "Hean DEE". Dee means good because the person is at peace and there is no more suffering.

you're pretended like you knew nothing, most of your words and phrases is sound like a man's words. Am I talking to the man or woman? Hay hay hay its alright to get mad, let it out......... get even with me. Just like I had said: I didn't born yesterday.

You don't have to correct me......Its Okay to pretend to be who you want to be....I understand...

Please do not let your guard down again......

Words and phrases don't belong to men or women, they are suitable for unisex.

I'm a strong woman and sometimes I like to use strong words to get my message across.

WISH OF LUCK TO ALL HOOKERS IN LAOS AND THAILAND

SEE YA LATER,

I hate them hookers and sluts, cause they turn me on, dammit!

BE A LAO-HOOKER IS BETTER THAN BE A INDOCHINA-HOOKER

INDOCHINA-HOOKER IS MR. TEE IDEA........(LACK OF KNOWLEDGE)

WELCOME TO USA

They look so innocence, but damn they love money nor.   I hope they would fine better career later on in life. Maybe some of them are going to college or do something meaningful.  

Best wishes to all of them

Sound good to me, I love the hookers. Anyway I just got divorce.
I heard they are vey cheap over there....about $25....
If I have $300 that would last me for 2 weeks.....

I am go to Laos next month...can't wait to see those gals

$25 for an STD, where do I sign up? Also, does that come with fries? I wonder if there is a drive thru. Perhaps they have an all you can eat brothel. okay okay, me funny.

They said: there are bunch of them in Viengchan, Is that true?
I haven't seen Laos for 31 years... So I really do not known man.
If you have any informations about Laos, Please let me hear some more.

Hay man, $25 just for once....? If so all I need is $250 will be enought for 10 days right.

Homeless DFW,
I love hookers..Man

Hi Admin

They all said the same thing. they dislike the prostitute in Laos,but they all have been using their service.... :o I guess these people don't have a social skill to pick up a nice girl in Laos. I am sure many of nice Laos girl that don't go into this kind of work. then again, These girl is to smart to being pick up by these clowns. All they can do is paying the girl for their service...

Hay hay hay.... Paying to those girls is mean boosting up the economy and won't have a problem at home. If hook up with those gals than you will have a problem back home......

I rather pay to be on safe side. If I have a chance to go over there.

I'm little late to jump into this conversation...  I didn't get a chance to read everyone comments regarding this particular topic.

Prostitution is the quickest way to earn the $$$ and perhaps enjoy the pleasure at the same time:-).  I'm not condoning this line of work either.  When majority of the people are poor and living standard is below poverty, people will do anything to survive...  Which means selling their body and soul, if they have to.   It is sad thing to see..

Our people just disgracing ourselves; Today we have no pride.
Lao people are trash to modern day world. We far behind.
Lack of every things.

WantLaosToBeIndependence, You're entitled to your opinion but we're doing just fine.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 31^st Jan, 2010 at 2:31am:

WantLaosToBeIndependence, You're entitled to your opinion but we're doing just fine.

Admin - You always seem to be speaking for ALL Laotian people in Laos.

In fact when I visited in 07' I went to Vang Vieng, Luang Prabang, and Pon Hong, there were parts THAT I SAW where people live in straw hut-like homes, typically built on stilts. The ones I visited have no running water lines, all they have are wells. Sewer facilities are just a hole in the ground, with no toilet seats. They go out hunting for birds, wild animals and the likes, fishing and looking for certain plants, vegetables and bamboo! These people have no education, no money and certainly NO AIR CONDITION HOME like you.

So please when you say "we're doing fine" I don't think you speak for the villagers and peasants out in the rural areas. Some of them have NOT even seen a computer before and have no idea what the INTERNET is. They are "doing fine" because they CAN'T SPEAK OUT OR COMPLAIN about the lack of materials and facilities, because they will be jailed or persecuted~ THEY HAVE NO VOICE! So they have to live life DAY BY DAY TO SURVIVE! You tell me they're doing fine?

You are doing fine because you live in the city, you have an education and probably earn more $$ than the average Laotian and probably born to middle class or rich family.

So please don't speak for ALL LAOTIANS!  

So how about YOU tell your government to INVEST more in its people!
OH WAIT~~YOU CAN"T SPEAK OUT EITHER!


In the communist political idealogy and socialist structure, THERE IS NO CLASS SEPARATION, NO RICH, NO POOR~~ "EVERYONE IS EQUAL"

Can you HONESTLY tell me~ ALL LAOTIANS ARE EQUAL TODAY?

If you say YES, I highly recommend you take a drive out to the countryside of Laos!

Thanks!

I don't think the western world is so perfect! I also think that guy live in the hut may not wish to have the same life as we have in the West! what we have to go through each day. I have received this poem send to me since 1999 by an unnamed person and I keep it and stick in my office wall to remind me. The world that I have is not that perfect!

We have taller buildings, but shorter tempers;

Wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints;

We spend more, but have less;

We buy more, but enjoy it less.

We have bigger houses and smaller families;

More conveniences, but less time;

We have more degrees, but less sense;

More knowledge, but less judgment;

More experts, but more problems;

More medicine, but less wellness.

We drink too much,

Smoke too much,

Spend too recklessly,

Laugh too little,

Drive too fast,

Get too angry too quickly,

stay up too late,

get up too tired,

read too seldom,

watch TV too much,

and pray too seldom.

We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values.

We talk too much, love too seldom and lie too often.

We've learned how to make a living, but not a life;

we've added years to life, not life to years.

We've been all the way to the moon and back,

but have trouble crossing the street to meet the new neighbor.

We've conquered outer space, but not inner space;

we've done larger things, but not better things;

we've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul;

we've split the atom, but not our prejudice;

we write more, but learn less;

plan more, but accomplish less.

We've learned to rush, but not to wait;

we have higher incomes; but lower morals;

more food but less appeasement;

We build more computers to hold more information,

to produce more copies than ever, but have less communication;

we've become long on quantity, but short on quality.

These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion;

tall men, and short character;

steep profits, and shallow relationships.

These are the times of world peace, but domestic warfare;

more leisure and less fun;

more kinds of food, but less nutrition.

These are days of two incomes, but more divorce;

More of fancier houses, but broken homes.

These are days of quick trips,

disposable diapers,

throwaway morality,

one-night stands,

overweight bodies,

and pills that do everything from cheer,

to quiet,

to kill.

It is a time when there is much in the show window

and nothing in the stockroom.

Indeed it's all true.


I hope you will stop and think about it. Are we really that happy than people living poor in Laos. Are we???????????

There are rich and poor people in every country.

When I say that "we are doing fine", most Laotians are doing fine. Many Laotians living in the countryside own land.

Hi Admin

I agree with you on this point! Most Laos in the Country side is a lot happy than people in the city. They don't have to be stress like us people in the city. Rent or mortgage to be pay each month. Phone bill,electricity and water bill........ Traffic, parking. wearing mask to talk to each other each day. worry about what to wear,what to eat. to many choice making us confuse about what we want in life. We forgot what our root and where did we came from how get to be what we are.....

As I have mention on the other post before this one. It seem to be we have more than them. We have the freedom more than them. but looking deep inside...are we really have all that?  

"doing fine" is a very subjective and open ended phrase.
I could be working in an office and have a house and able to support my family and be "doing fine'.
I could also be living in a mud hut with a rice field and fish pond to live off of and be "doing fine".

I think the real debate is whether people have choices or not. For a laos person living out in the country, I don't think they have many choices but to live off the land to survive. Their kids don't have much of a choice but to go to any school that's available there. Maybe they can move to the city if they wanted but what could they possible do?
In the west, the poor can become rich, and anyone can change their life, there are choices. I got a loan from the gov't to go to University, had no money and no parents, I still was able to go to a school that I wanted and now I'm "doing fine". What do you think happens to orphans in Laos?

For you guys that say Laos is doing fine, why don't you guys go live there then? If it's so fine, why aren't you moving there, what's stopping you all from going aside from the $300k price tag. i think "doing fine" only pertains to the 10% of the population who are the corrupt commies that can afford to drive $100k mercedes but can't afford to build/fix the roads to drive it on.

Maybe you guys are only speaking for yourselves about "doing fine", but these people don't seem to be "doing fine" or have a choice:

http://laos.wvasiapacific.org/documents/laos_fs_0708.pdf

The Facts
80% of the Lao population live in rural areas
At least 30% of the Lao population live below the national
poverty line
40% of children under five years of age are underweight
29% of the Lao population live below the minimum level of
dietary energy consumption

According to the UNICEF/Ministry of Labor and
Social Welfare (MoLSW) study conducted in 2004,
of those victims traffi cked into Thailand, 35% were
forced into prostitution, 32% into domestic labor,
17% into factory work, 12% into agricultural work,
and 4% worked on fi shing boats.

Buk Hoo Kee wrote on 1^st Feb, 2010 at 12:13am:

"doing fine" is a very subjective and open ended phrase. I could be working in an office and have a house and able to support my family and be "doing fine'. I could also be living in a mud hut with a rice field and fish pond to live off of and be "doing fine". I think the real debate is whether people have choices or not. For a laos person living out in the country, I don't think they have many choices but to live off the land to survive. Their kids don't have much of a choice but to go to any school that's available there. Maybe they can move to the city if they wanted but what could they possible do? In the west, the poor can become rich, and anyone can change their life, there are choices. I got a loan from the gov't to go to University, had no money and no parents, I still was able to go to a school that I wanted and now I'm "doing fine". What do you think happens to orphans in Laos? For you guys that say Laos is doing fine, why don't you guys go live there then? If it's so fine, why aren't you moving there, what's stopping you all from going aside from the $300k price tag. i think "doing fine" only pertains to the 10% of the population who are the corrupt commies that can afford to drive $100k mercedes but can't afford to build/fix the roads to drive it on. Maybe you guys are only speaking for yourselves about "doing fine", but these people don't seem to be "doing fine" or have a choice: http://laos.wvasiapacific.org/documents/laos_fs_0708.pdf The Facts 80% of the Lao population live in rural areas At least 30% of the Lao population live below the national poverty line 40% of children under five years of age are underweight 29% of the Lao population live below the minimum level of dietary energy consumption According to the UNICEF/Ministry of Labor and Social Welfare (MoLSW) study conducted in 2004, of those victims traffi cked into Thailand, 35% were forced into prostitution, 32% into domestic labor, 17% into factory work, 12% into agricultural work, and 4% worked on fi shing boats.

You Data is too old to be make any judgment here. 2004. When I was there that wasn't many car and motorbike yet. They isn't must building build and the Highway 13 is not complete yet. The bridge(Loas -Thailand) in Savannakhet is not build yet. Seno, special Zone for business is still in the drawing board, The asean Game didn't not even in drawing board. 2009 is the year Laos finally have show the the world we try to get better like most of the world.  Many thing have change since you las visit mate.

Talking about prostitution is not only Laos problem Every where specially where you are now. you have to stop the people that paying for the service too. In USA is prosecute the people soliciting the prostitute as you aware of that already.  

Each country in this world all have their own problems. you can never stop prostitution as long there is a need It will be always with us...... don't tell me ,every real man will stop having sex and using the 5 fingers to do the job from now on.....

Let stop criticis the government and hope they will see it.  I don't think so... because if they do see it...This site will be block and being ask to shut down already.  The last time,I asking (yesterday)my friend in Laos checking this site is till online.....  but I am sure they is many local Laos is reading about this site now. the way we criticise the govenment they would agree with us but they also will think we are abandoned them and look down on them and thinking they are stupid. I just hope we can pointing to the problem what Laos has and hopefully They Young and future Laos see it and at least finding solution to those problem when they become the future leader.

I am going back to Laos(3 years) to retire and rest in peace. I will start some kind of business in Laos. right now I don't  know what I will do yet.

Well put BHK!

In my CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, though it may sound negative, BUT IT IS THE FACT! It is a REALITY IN LAOS. I'm just telling the TRUTH about how things are! There are NO LIES! Sometimes the truth hurts!

Tee - I do HOPE that Laotian people and the Laotian government see these critiques and realize that WHERE LAOS IS CURRENTLY AT AND WHERE LAOS NEEDS TO, AND COULD BE!

I am NOT putting down the people! Though I live in the USA, and you in Australia, WE want to see our country, our people, live BETTER lives!
And for those that lack the education and intelligence, financial, infrastructures and facilities, IT IS THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE FOR ITS PEOPLE! My criticism is of the LACK OF GOVERNMENT initiatives and programs that will DIRECTLY benefit, enhance and improve the quality of life, in ALL aspects for ALL local people.

Where are the millions $$$ made from the dam projects, from Chinese and foreign "investments?" How about some of that coming back for various projects like roads, schools and education programs for kids, clean running water, local clinics and hospitals in rural areas?

The moral of the story is Laotians need to be afforded CHOICES and OPPORTUNITIES! It is TRUE Laos has made progress since the "change in government" but change and progress is SLOW in COMMUNIST and SOCIALIST structures!

And TEE - No..the west is NOT perfect. But America STRIVES to be FAIR, provide EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, offer CHOICES, to defend freedom and defend those who can't defend themselves..etc...etc...

>>

And speaking of the $300,000 investment the goverment ASKS of expats....Here's ADMIN's response as to why:

"Most Laotians from abroad live in properties that's over $300,000 so I guess that amount isn't alot to ask."

Ahhh, the Logic and Reasoning of an ignoramus and a simpleton! UNBELIEVABLE!

What do you think Buk Hoo Kee? How can you DEBATE with someone who is narrow-minded and DOES NOT SEE THE BIG PICTURE, that does NOT want to see an improvement in quality of life for the greater good?

I don't want to argue with anyone and I think we have all been good in understanding each other and having a clean and adult like debate. I think all our intentions are good, we just have different views of what we "think" is "good". We all have different standards and I do realize that Laos is still a 3rd world country and their standards may not meet ours in the west. Living comfortably to us in the west means that we can make our own decisions. If we choose to live in the country and do farming and live off the land, we can choose that life. If we want to live in the city and work at a job, we can also choose that life here in the west. I can choose what I want to buy cause I got choices here. It is true that we have to pay for all these choices like having a cell phone along with the bills, having internet/cable along with the bills. Live in an expensive house, have high mortgage payments, live in a cheap place then have a low rent/mortgage payment each month. We can control these things cause we have the choice.

For the people in Laos that are deprived of these choices, they can only accept their fate that is handed to them. If you are born into a poor family that lives in the country, how do you change your fate? You don't even have access to good schools to educate yourself out of poverty, can't go work 2-3 jobs to save up more money cause there are no jobs, you may only have land to grow food to eat day to day and if there is a drought or flood like Ketsana, then what do you do, starve? Got no choice unless the outside world helps you which they have been doing so the Laos gov't just ignores the problem, those UN suckers will do it.

80% live in the country, that means 20% live in the city. So doing fine must only apply to the 20% livng in the city, if even that. When I was there in Laos, there was this family that lived in the house I was staying at and basically they were the live in housekeeprs or "mae bahn" who cooked and cleaned for everyone. They got paid $80 US/mth and that was considered "good". They were from the country and came to the city to find "work" and each month, they would send money home. The mother of this family cooked and cleaned while looking after her kids, the father couldn't find work, just odd jobs. To me, this is not "doing fine", this is "surviving". Lots of the kids can't afford to go to school, that's why I see them running around during the day all the time.

I knew of another guy that had to pond his $300 US car so his wife could get medical treatment at the hospital or she would die. All of the people I know there go to Thailand for anything medical related, and this is in the city, I wonder how bad it must be in the country.

A monk told me something very wise a while ago. He said for someone like me to go live there it would be okay since I have knowledge, english and choices, not to mention some money. For someone that was raised there, they don't have that advantage and thus have no choices but to struggle to make ends meet. We have the tools, they don't. Have you ever tried to do something but realized you don't have the right tools to do it? It's the same thing here, I don't blame them for not having the tools, that choice was never given to them.

On another note, I know of a family of 3 who went back to Laos. They lived in Canada for a few years and decided to go back. They used to rent an apartment and work at labour jobs here in Canada. Now they make $350 US/mth and have a house in Laos and live comfortably cause he has knowledge of road construction that he used to do in Canada, not to mention the english skills necessary to understand the paperwork. Can some average Laos person born there be able to make $350 doing the same thing? Would they be given the same choice/opportunity? I bet not, that's why the chinese have to come in and build the Sea games stadium and other infrastructures. Give the Laos people the choices/opportunity, control their own destiny.

Wise words...after all these dicusstion, Laos need education not new goverment. I have said on other post..to make Laos a better place is to Change the whole Education system and the new goverment will be channge by it self. I hope you agree with me!

Last of all,

I like you guys comments ( BLBG, BHK )
I also like your poems,Tee.But one thing I disagree with you " Let stop criticize the Govt" My words would had said " F- the Laos Fake-ass Communist" ( Corruptors,one party rules Communist party only)

Let me fix some of your poems:

"we have a big house and smaller families"
Have a big house is better than a little sack hut with huge families
"more knowledge but less judgment"
Have more knowledge is always better than less or lack of knowledge, but less judgment is also better than been judged by the Communist Laws(guity before prove) there are many innocent ppl are been lock up behind bars in Laos without trial.

You have the right and entitled to disagree with my opinions so to all commentors.

It's truth if you want to put it that way! but hang on... I think American is do the same to Prisoner in Guantanamo Bay for many year been lock up behind bars without trial. they are exactly like the political prisoner in Laos.
What I mean is that when come to the political control.All political system  they will do the same.  every which way they can to hold on to the power mate! We are not living in the perfect world. Every good have it own evil side! How we going to know the good is not evil and how we going to know the evil is not good!

Very well said BHK! I think WE ALL want to see the people have the opportunity to choose, get educated, have civil liberties and freedoms without fear of persecution from the government.


Tee wrote on 2^nd Feb, 2010 at 1:09am:

Wise words...after all these dicusstion, Laos need education not new goverment. I have said on other post..to make Laos a better place is to Change the whole Education system and the new goverment will be channge by it self. I hope you agree with me!

TEE - Education is NOT the lone answer. To move forward to a TRUE democratic state "PASATIPATAI".....then the government MUST also change!

When I say CHANGE, I don't just mean, economic, financial, education, infrastructures etc.... I'm including government policy, government structure, attitutudes and beliefs, ways of thinking, CLEAR WRITTEN LAWS WITH PUNISHMENTS to curb problems like CORRUPTION. This obviously is NOT a complete listing...but I guess you get the point.

BorLeumBanGerd wrote on 2^nd Feb, 2010 at 1:59pm:

Very well said BHK! I think WE ALL want to see the people have the opportunity to choose, get educated, have civil liberties and freedoms without fear of persecution from the government. Tee wrote on 2nd Feb, 2010 at 1:09am: Wise words...after all these dicusstion, Laos need education not new goverment. I have said on other post..to make Laos a better place is to Change the whole Education system and the new goverment will be channge by it self. I hope you agree with me! TEE - Education is NOT the lone answer. To move forward to a TRUE democratic state "PASATIPATAI".....then the government MUST also change! When I say CHANGE, I don't just mean, economic, financial, education, infrastructures etc.... I'm including government policy, government structure, attitutudes and beliefs, ways of thinking, CLEAR WRITTEN LAWS WITH PUNISHMENTS to curb problems like CORRUPTION. This obviously is NOT a complete listing...but I guess you get the point.

I belief to teach the people what is democracy,freedow of speak,how to manage the business. it's like a tools you have to teach them how to use it first before the tools can be use affectively.
After the Second world war. The France give Indochina the independent. what do we do...We kill each other for the power. internal war started every corner of the country, brother kill brother for the hunger of power.(Laos loyal family) I don't want that to happens again! let's learn from the past! at that time we rack of knowledge of what is democracy,rack of law and order,rack of people management,rack of business and trade skill. Under this government is still rack of all what I have mention above! Education is the only way to get Laos to be a Strong nation again!  

You are CORRECT Tee....Education is KEY!

But with an educated society you WILL have people that will demand, PEACEFULLY OR OTHERWISE, civil rights, freedoms of speech, freedom of assembly and demonstrations. They will DEMAND the goverment do more for the people, they will want the government to provide and improve services like health care or unemployment checks, road, electricity, water, schools and educational programs, open doors and opportunities, they will demand the government to STOP and END Chinese and Vietnamese influence, they will speak out agains CORRUPTION....etc, etc,

EDUCATED PEOPLE YES! But LAOS will still be a socialist and communist authoritarian rule! Like you said earlier, those in power don't want to lose that power!

So having said all of that, DO YOU REALLY THINK THE GOVERNMENT WILL LET THE PEOPLE PROTEST AND DEMAND FOR CIVIL RIGHTS and all other services?

Look what happened to China in Tiananmen Square in 1989! It started out as a peaceful studen rally, demonstrations for democracy and civil rights.

Let me ask you again...DO YOU REALLY THINK THE GOVERNMENT WILL LET THE PEOPLE PROTEST AND DEMAND FOR CIVIL RIGHTS and all other services?

Not so easy to answer this one though huh? Sacrifices NEED to be made for the GOOD OF ALL PEOPLE AND FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY!

Do you really think an aggressive, totalitarian, authoritarian communist government, allow this to happen?

I'm NOT saying it CAN'T happen, but it will NOT be easy!

BorLeumBanGerd wrote on 2^nd Feb, 2010 at 4:00pm:

You are CORRECT Tee....Education is KEY! But with an educated society you WILL have people that will demand, PEACEFULLY OR OTHERWISE, civil rights, freedoms of speech, freedom of assembly and demonstrations. They will DEMAND the goverment do more for the people, they will want the government to provide and improve services like health care or unemployment checks, road, electricity, water, schools and educational programs, open doors and opportunities, they will demand the government to STOP and END Chinese and Vietnamese influence, they will speak out agains CORRUPTION....etc, etc, EDUCATED PEOPLE YES! But LAOS will still be a socialist and communist authoritarian rule! Like you said earlier, those in power don't want to lose that power! So having said all of that, DO YOU REALLY THINK THE GOVERNMENT WILL LET THE PEOPLE PROTEST AND DEMAND FOR CIVIL RIGHTS and all other services? Look what happened to China in Tiananmen Square in 1989! It started out as a peaceful studen rally, demonstrations for democracy and civil rights. Let me ask you again...DO YOU REALLY THINK THE GOVERNMENT WILL LET THE PEOPLE PROTEST AND DEMAND FOR CIVIL RIGHTS and all other services? Not so easy to answer this one though huh? Sacrifices NEED to be made for the GOOD OF ALL PEOPLE AND FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY! Do you really think an aggressive, totalitarian, authoritarian communist government, allow this to happen? I'm NOT saying it CAN'T happen, but it will NOT be easy!

I have faith,  we will get there..Internet has open the door to Laos as you know no one can block the WWW. people in Laos can judge they own faith, when time arrive, we would see that happening. I just hope to see it  in my life time!
I would be going home in 3 years time, I would start something small first just to test the market, but I will never sell out every thing, I have here. My plan B, if anything happened in Laos, I can always come back here again. I am not afraid to lose,but more afraid not to try. I got one American Dollars when I got here. If I going to lose some of my wealth, that is not going to kill me. I have give my children the best education I can afford...I am not going to worry about their future. they probably will make more money that me anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!  

I'm glad you have faith and plans to retire in Laos Tee. I have visited Laos once and look forward to bringing my children to see my homeland, when they are older.

Fyi..about your comment:


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Internet has open the door to Laos as you know no one can block the WWW. people in Laos can judge they own faith, when time arrive, we would see that happening

Actually you are INCORRECT in this statement. The Laos government with the help of Chinese/Vietnamese governments can BLOCK, FILTER or CENSOR, and MONITOR ANY information they want on internet CONTENT that they find, "inappropriate" "defaming" or "threat to the state or party" etc...

Let me restate - The Laos government DOES BLOCK or FILTER websites!

Sites like pro-democracy movements, or sites attacking the government...are on the top of the list.

Here's an article:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2010/01/25/opinion/opinion_30121062.php

Recently GOOGLE, threatened to pull out of China for its censorships or contents found on GOOGLE. WWW or the internet means FREE ACCESS to FREE information from all over the world! Putting censorships or "filters" ATTACKS that FREEDOM!

They can block ANY content, just like I can block PORN from my 8 year old son, who also uses the internet for learning.

Think about it, why do you think ADMIN NEVER says anything NEGATIVE about the government or the current state of the people? She is monitored and she knows it! So she can't say anything DEROGATORY!

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21^st Dec, 2009 at 4:14am:

I'm never mad and I didn't know this was a test. Look, they can get any job. Work in a restaurant as a waitress or go and clean toilets somewhere, it doesn't matter what job it is, a job is a job. They want to be prostitutes for the money, it's as simple as that. I'm sure they use some kind of protection during sex. Sometimes Lao girls are abducted or tricked into working as prostitutes in Thailand like the example below: http://www.laopride.com/pictures/laopride485.jpg http://www.laopride.com/pictures/laopride486.jpg http://www.laopride.com/pictures/laopride487.jpg http://www.laopride.com/pictures/laopride488.jpg

Worthless Laotian Refugee wrote on 13^th Feb, 2010 at 7:58am:

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21st Dec, 2009 at 4:14am: I'm never mad and I didn't know this was a test. Look, they can get any job. Work in a restaurant as a waitress or go and clean toilets somewhere, it doesn't matter what job it is, a job is a job. They want to be prostitutes for the money, it's as simple as that. I'm sure they use some kind of protection during sex. Sometimes Lao girls are abducted or tricked into working as prostitutes in Thailand like the example below: http://www.laopride.com/pictures/laopride485.jpg http://www.laopride.com/pictures/laopride486.jpg http://www.laopride.com/pictures/laopride487.jpg http://www.laopride.com/pictures/laopride488.jpg

As long as there is a need ,there will be always people willing to sale. Just like the Drug in any part of the world...you can never  stop it...but you can control it by make it legal......

North Korea is real Communism with the hightly respect. You will never heard about the Chicks or Hookers were walked on the streets in North Korea.

Is Laos the Communist state or what? Don't you tell me Laos is fake-ass Communist.

Worthless Laotian Refugee wrote on 17^th Feb, 2010 at 10:21am:

North Korea is real Communism with the hightly respect. You will never heard about the Chicks or Hookers were walked on the streets in North Korea. Is Laos the Communist state or what? Don't you tell me Laos is fake-ass Communist.

Every communist in this world is fake-ass Communist. The real communist is to be classless.everyone have the equate right of decision making. it's bese on the community and help other to live a better life. but that is only a dream of Marxism-Leninism and he didn't even live to see for that long.... This System can never workable with the Human Ideology. because we Human have Need,Greed,Jealousy and the will to be better than every one else!
In Text book is a very good system but in real life can never work....  

Tee wrote on 17^th Feb, 2010 at 11:48am:

Worthless Laotian Refugee wrote on 17th Feb, 2010 at 10:21am: North Korea is real Communism with the hightly respect. You will never heard about the Chicks or Hookers were walked on the streets in North Korea. Is Laos the Communist state or what? Don't you tell me Laos is fake-ass Communist. Every communist in this world is fake-ass Communist. The real communist is to be classless.everyone have the equate right of decision making. it's bese on the community and help other to live a better life. but that is only a dream of Marxism-Leninism and he didn't even live to see for that long.... This System can never workable with the Human Ideology. because we Human have Need,Greed,Jealousy and the will to be better than every one else! In Text book is a very good system but in real life can never work....

I don't think they said we are trash,but saying "Laos is lazy" It's our culture making us this way. most of Laos doesn't need to go very far to find food. any Creek have Fish and land have Bamboo. so it's making us not to worry about food. Most Laos have a habit having a nap in the afternoon. Our culture is making us a Nation of no worry. and Lazy according with other nation. because of our culture!

Chinese and Vietnamese have been doing business since The French in control of Indochina. I don't think you can stop that.....and they will always will be in control of the economic of the country.  Specially Chinese, They will always dominate the Business of Asian Country. Thailand 4 big Bank is in the hand of Chinese. Although they no longer using Chinese Name. Malaysia,Singapore,Indonesia,Philippine all the economic are control by Chinese. if they gone all country will going to melt down.  They are just like the Jew control all the economic of the western world. You are hate them but you can't live with out them! Like the old say" If you can bid them, Joint them"  

It is..  What it is...  Just let it be...  You'll die trying to compare and keeping up with neighbor countries.

It's rather complicated, try to simplify it,most of them have these problems:
1. Poor and need large sum of money (their standard)
2. Heavily in debt (her or family)
3. Unskill, naive,young and of course good looking (who wants an ugly hooker)
After a while in the game, they became used to it and most of them DON'T want to do anything else... after all it's quite easy to make money, sad thing is as they becomes older so, their prices drops, the lucky one becomes Mami, the majority...sad...and try to sell their daughter to pay for the debts...here we go again.

Solution...wise men try to fix this prolem since adam was wearing nappies, for me... the only way is either sew the pussy up or cut the funny bit off.

And for those think that proverty is the main cause, may be, but don't tell me there is no hooker in Swiss which is the richest country in the world.

For those thinking that they are the world's savior, poor guy, you've been conned like those poor north Koreans, 90% of the world's problem is caused by your master.

TODAY LAOS IS BUILDING MORE CASINO AND HO HOUSES

OUR PPL ARE GOING TO BE TRASH JUST LIKE THE BLACK LIVING IN AMERICA

I HAD HAVE SEEN IT ALL

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 21^st Mar, 2010 at 10:55pm:

TODAY LAOS IS BUILDING MORE CASINO AND HO HOUSES OUR PPL ARE GOING TO BE TRASH JUST LIKE THE BLACK LIVING IN AMERICA I HAD HAVE SEEN IT ALL

You have seen it all,but you still follow their foot step. umm that telling me you are not learning but you a follower........

It's sad to see one of my country man like this...if you come to Australia...I maybe able to give you a job...and a place to stay....

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 21^st Mar, 2010 at 10:55pm:

TODAY LAOS IS BUILDING MORE CASINO AND HO HOUSES OUR PPL ARE GOING TO BE TRASH JUST LIKE THE BLACK LIVING IN AMERICA I HAD HAVE SEEN IT ALL

What about the Laotian low-life gangsters or wannabe blacks in America? You are no better then the people you stereotype.  

As regard to casino and whore houses, it's everywhere around the world.  What can you do to stop this? You really can't.  It's up to the people in villages or cities to protest this.  If our people stoop this low to allow this I will have to agree with you there.  Laos has a population of a little over 5-6 million.  I don't know how much impact this will have on the country as a whole.   I guess time will tell.  

WEAKNESS WILL DIE
STRONGEST WILL SURVIVE

6.8 ITS ABOUT 1/3 OF EACH ( LAO/VIET/CHIN)

35 YRS ALREADY PAST

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21^st Dec, 2009 at 3:06am:

There are decent jobs otherwise everybody would all become a prostitute. People have a choice in life, they choose that direction because they want quick and easy money. Working in a decent job is a slow process of earning income.

woooaaa.. slow down. selling drugs, stealing cars, rob a bank or other people are a form of easy money, it makes no different than being a prostitute. It should be illegal. human trafficking should be allowed as well. Laos need to step  up in their enforcement from preventing this from happening. I think is an example of culture accepting it is ok to do this.

Badlikeme, Technically, prostitution is illegal in Laos but sometimes there's insufficient proof that one is prostituting.

Selling drugs and stealing is also an easy way to earn money but it's a very serious charge and you can be proven guilty in a court of law. Prostitution is a lesser crime.

you are kidding right? there are numerous ways law enforcement can enforce and crack down on illegal prostitution. I suppose law authority needs more training? Honestly speaking, I for myself entered a dance/entertainment club that it was considered by the way. And many poo sao came out of no where and wanted to entertained me by solicitating their service.

You can do all the training you like, but when it comes down to the nitty gritty it's scary to think of how much corruption there actually is.

The wealthy pimps pay the authorities to stay away from their business and their girls. When you have money, you're above the law.

Of course corruption is a major part of the issue to get rid of prostitution and many other crimes alike. It takes overhauling change from the top official down.  This is why the country will never prevail and stay in the same state as they are in now with no improvement. The country needs leader who are willing to stamp out corruption.

There is prostitution in every country, and there will always be prostitution in Laos regardless of who is the top official.

Just because you and I don't approve prostitution, many ladies out there still enjoy the job and many men enjoy the company of a lady. Why should we remove something that we don't like, but others like?

I have no sympathy for prostitutes, but at the end of the day their career choice doesn't affect the way I live my life.

Only if you could desex the population.
Too big of a step ? may be Mr Independant should do something about this rather than just critisise, I have a few suggestion:
1. Try to send $ to help.
2. Try to lobby western gov not to crack down on the pronography industry.
3. Join politics rather than talking alone, once you got elected you can really do somethin.
3. Take it easy, after all it's willing buy willing sell, we live in a capitalist, free and democratic society, everyone can do whatever they want as long as it cause no harm to others, so mind your own business.
4. Start a revolution, who knows, may be you'll be more famous than Lenin and Che combined.
5. Too hard basket, people try to solve it since Adam's grandpa, maybe God will take care of it oneday.

Oh! one more thing, the government knows prostitution is the quickiest way to improve the country's economy, of couse they can not openly support it, look at history:
Back at confussos time in China, the government runs brothols to boost the state's coffer.
Taiwan's official prostitution close their door just a few years ago.
In late 90's China crack down on prostitution in Shenzhen, most of the prostitute went back to their village, the result is massive withdrawal of funds from the bank, creata a localised recession, the government soon reverse the policy.
Prostitution is an intergral part of economy whether we like it or not, more so in modern days, it carried on from thousands of years, imagine Thailand without prosititution, how can their economy survive (I mean at present form of economy structure).

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Government need to provide jobs and opportunity for Lao citizens. Better education and health care. Then there'll be less prostitution. But still not as bad as Thailand though. Thailand is well know for sex industry worldwide :(.

Laos is a more traditional country than Thailand so we are not as bad as our neighbour. Even men in Thailand turn to prostitution so all sorts of things happen.

please tell me those are screen shots from a dramatized tv show or movie... and not an actual recording for forced prostitution. because that would be messed up  :-/

USA Joe, It's a Lao movie based on a true story. It was televised in Laos to put some fright into young Lao ladies, and warn them about the dangers of being tricked into entering Thailand to work. However the work is sometimes not what one expect, instead one can end up being sold into prostitution.

Prostitution in Laos is different in that no one is locked up and being forced to do anything they don't want to do. In Thailand, however, prostitution is a dangerous game that is affiliated with mafia and gangs.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 4^th Aug, 2010 at 8:12am:

USA Joe, It's a Lao movie based on a true story. It was televised in Laos to put some fright into young Lao ladies, and warn them about the dangers of being tricked into entering Thailand to work. However the work is sometimes not what one expect, instead one can end up being sold into prostitution.

ahhh good to know. sigh of relief here.


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Prostitution in Laos is different in that no one is locked up and being forced to do anything they don't want to do. In Thailand, however, prostitution is a dangerous game that is affiliated with mafia and gangs.

i hope i am wrong but i feel it is only a matter of time before laos follow in step with with thailand. i really hope laos keep its innocence

It will be difficult for Laos to turn out like Thailand due to the illegality of having a Lao girl with you, the curfew in place, and the emphasis on people to follow Laotian culture and tradition.

Is prostitution illegal in Laos?

Prostitution is illegal in Laos, but not enforced sufficiently.

The law in Laos tends to favour Lao citizens, so the punishment is usually just a slap on the hand. If you were a foreigner prostituting in Laos, there will be a more severe punishment in terms of jail time and heavy fines. That's why there's a mixture of Thais and foreigners prostituting in Thailand, since everyone is free to prostitute.

The Law in Laos is more favor to Vietnamese[Fact] not to the Lao ppl.

True story : The poor Lao famers are living near by K52, She's old lady [widow] living with her daughter. All they having just a little hut and rice field paddy with two water buffaloes, have no running water in the house. Last year, one of their buffalo got stolen. They find out the thieves are the Vietnamese Personnel are living near by. After the investigated they offering her the money 1,500,000 Kip = $ 180 US.
Without the buffaloes to work in the field, Old /woman. Imagin what life does she has? and the thieves gone free without punishment at all, only $180 to given to the lady. Is that all the Laos' Law can do to the Vietnamese? What the sorry........

I was in Laos for 14 days I had seen it all. There have more Ho-Houses  than the Factories in Laos, every goddam corners in Vientiane. I myself don't ever believed Laos had changed too much...

Time changed People changed.....so to the gov't [Face$$$$]
Saaaaaaaadddddddddd......Our girls turn to be Whoores [1000 Bath=$30].

The thief would have most likely sold it. At least the woman got compensated in the form of money, and she can buy another buffalo. The cheapest buffalo cost around $180 US in the countryside, so she should be fine unless she used the money for something else.

I agree that there's alot of "ho houses" in Vientiane, but if you're not into those things, you don't really notice it. It's like if you're a very religious person, everywhere you go there seems to be temples because you're always on the lookout for them.

Adm, You had agree with me ha... there are alot of Ho-Houses everywhere, started from North thru the South.

Laos used to known as the land of the [Million Elephants] but today I had to say : The Land of [Million Hookers]

Please do not get mad at me Ok. I just said what I had saw.

The so-called "ho houses" are legitimate businesses. When there's demand, there's supply.

Government should crack down and deport illegal Vietnamese immigrant who committed crime in Laos. If not crime will rise cause they know they can get away with it. In some European country they banned Vienamese immigrant because some are in criminals activity, gang and mafia.

llX wrote on 6^th Aug, 2010 at 11:07am:

Government should crack down and deport illegal Vietnamese immigrant who committed crime in Laos. If not crime will rise cause they know they can get away with it. In some European country they banned Vienamese immigrant because some are in criminals activity, gang and mafia.

so you are pro-racial profiling?

meaning u want to pass bad judgment upon a person who has yet to do something bad just because some of his/her race has done them.

someday when that happens to you, lets see if you agree to that

Just like USA they deported all illegal immigrant who committed crime. Laos should do the same. At the same time I don't want to see Laos to be overrun by Viet, keo criminals. Laos is for Lao.

llX wrote on 6^th Aug, 2010 at 9:56pm:

Just like USA they deported all illegal immigrant who committed crime. Laos should do the same. At the same time I don't want to see Laos to be overrun by Viet, keo criminals. Laos is for Lao.

um no. USA deport them because (1) they are ILLEGAL and (2) if they are legal residence but are found guilty of a crime, they dont get deported. they get jail.

but all this is done after the facts. not before. which i ask u again, u must be for racial profile before that person even commit a crime

Over million of illegal Vietnamese immigrant are in Laos. Million more will come. Government has to do something before its too late. Yes deport keow now.


USA Joe wrote on 7^th Aug, 2010 at 12:33am:

llX wrote on 6th Aug, 2010 at 9:56pm: Just like USA they deported all illegal immigrant who committed crime. Laos should do the same. At the same time I don't want to see Laos to be overrun by Viet, keo criminals. Laos is for Lao. um no. USA deport them because (1) they are ILLEGAL and (2) if they are legal residence but are found guilty of a crime, they dont get deported. they get jail. but all this is done after the facts. not before. which i ask u again, u must be for racial profile before that person even commit a crime

From Lao prostitution to illegal Vietnamese Immigrants, wonderful!   :o

Vietnam is a richer country than Laos, but the Vietnamese come to Laos to live, and Lao people don't want to go to Vietnam (except for study purposes).

It's because there are more opportunities in Laos. Vietnam have many people so they need to compete to make ends meet.

Yes there is more opportunity in Laos. Chinese are also coming in. Government has to regulate and keep track of who, how many is coming in. Laos economy is booming so will the population. Vietnam is poorer then Laos because they got too many people 86 million, while Laos has about 6.8 million.




Admin Saovaluck wrote on 7^th Aug, 2010 at 3:46am:

From Lao prostitution to illegal Vietnamese Immigrants, wonderful!   :o Vietnam is a richer country than Laos, but the Vietnamese come to Laos to live, and Lao people don't want to go to Vietnam (except for study purposes). It's because there are more opportunities in Laos. Vietnam have many people so they need to compete to make ends meet.

Laos is poorer than Vietnam according to the United Nations.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 7^th Aug, 2010 at 12:22pm:

Laos is poorer than Vietnam according to the United Nations.

Yes Vietnam is richer, but also poorer then Laos. About 85 million, 10 million rich but 60-70 million dirt poor. That's why million moved to Laos for better opportunity.  Vietnam GDP $250 billion a year. Laos GDP $15 billion. They got more money and more poor people.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 7^th Aug, 2010 at 12:22pm:

Laos is poorer than Vietnam according to the United Nations.

Can Viet, Keow illegal immigrant buy land and property in Laos?

Calling a Vietnamese a "keow" can be offensive to them. Illegal Vietnamese immigrants can certainly buy land and property in Laos, but they can't own it in their name.

Many legal Vietnamese immigrants are richer than Lao people, and they can speak Lao very fluently. Lao people mainly run small shops and restaurants on the streets, but I see Vietnamese people own hotels and apartments in Vientiane.

Some are business people, and they probably get help from Vietnam government with loan to do business in Laos.


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 7^th Aug, 2010 at 10:24pm:

Calling a Vietnamese a "keow" can be offensive to them. Illegal Vietnamese immigrants can certainly buy land and property in Laos, but they can't own it in their name. Many legal Vietnamese immigrants are richer than Lao people, and they can speak Lao very fluently. Lao people mainly run small shops and restaurants on the streets, but I see Vietnamese people own hotels and apartments in Vientiane.

Not good for Laos future. If Vietnamese control Laos economy. They already control the government. Look at Thailand for example Chinese immigrant control Bangkok, economy and military. Lao people in Issan are second class citizens, they're not well off under Bangkok rule that's why there a political protest and unrest by red shirt from Issan.


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 7^th Aug, 2010 at 10:24pm:

Calling a Vietnamese a "keow" can be offensive to them. Illegal Vietnamese immigrants can certainly buy land and property in Laos, but they can't own it in their name. Many legal Vietnamese immigrants are richer than Lao people, and they can speak Lao very fluently. Lao people mainly run small shops and restaurants on the streets, but I see Vietnamese people own hotels and apartments in Vientiane.

That's what I'm thinking. The Vietnamese business people in Laos could be making loans from Vietnam. I know at least 5 or 6 hotels and apartments in Vientiane that is owned by people from a Vietnamese background.

Not all Lao people in Issan are second class citizens. They are more than welcome to immigrate to Laos if they are unhappy about their living conditions in Thailand. But they love Thailand more than Laos, they don't want anything to do with Laos.

They should hire more Lao to work in the hotel. If they not. Government should require them too.

Some Lao Issan do move to Laos. Most like Thai more because there're more jobs and opportunity in Thailand. When Laos become wealthy and develop. They'll like Laos more and more will move to Laos. Humane nature people want better life for their family. That's why million around the world want to come to the US. I think US is more Communist then Laos. They take good care of poor people and peasant. Government has money and they help poor with education, food, Medicare and housing.  The less you make the cheaper you pay. You make more you pay everything regular prices.


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 8^th Aug, 2010 at 3:10am:

That's what I'm thinking. The Vietnamese business people in Laos could be making loans from Vietnam. I know at least 5 or 6 hotels and apartments in Vientiane that is owned by people from a Vietnamese background. Not all Lao people in Issan are second class citizens. They are more than welcome to immigrate to Laos if they are unhappy about their living conditions in Thailand. But they love Thailand more than Laos, they don't want anything to do with Laos.

Laos has been around for thousands of years, and we have never been wealthy and developed during our existence so I don't see that happening in the immediate future. We are improving as a country, but we won't be rich.

It's good that the US takes care of the poor. In Laos, people have to find ways to survive on their own or their children helps them when they become old.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 8^th Aug, 2010 at 11:10pm:

Laos has been around for thousands of years, and we have never been wealthy and developed during our existence so I don't see that happening in the immediate future. We are improving as a country, but we won't be rich. It's good that the US takes care of the poor. In Laos, people have to find ways to survive on their own or their children helps them when they become old.

There good and bad everywhere. In Laos and in US. Hopefully Laos will prosper in the near future so government can do more to help poor people with health care, and education. I like the free lunch program they has for children at school, and hopefully they will expand in every provinces in Laos. International community also helping Laos with economic development. Great news, and great for Laos.

If anyone wants to have free lunch, just go to any temple at 12pm.  

I'm just joking.   [smiley=happy.gif]

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 9^th Aug, 2010 at 4:33am:

If anyone wants to have free lunch, just go to any temple at 12pm.   I'm just joking.   [smiley=happy.gif]

You got me. Good one.
;D

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 8^th Aug, 2010 at 11:10pm:

Laos has been around for thousands of years, and we have never been wealthy and developed during our existence so I don't see that happening in the immediate future. We are improving as a country, but we won't be rich. It's good that the US takes care of the poor. In Laos, people have to find ways to survive on their own or their children helps them when they become old.

WOW!!! :D

It has been almost 9 months since I last signed on and posted.. and still ADMIN is still providing simple answers to difficult questions!

ADMIN said "We are improving as a country, but we won't be rich."

This statement alone tells me ADMIN is an idiot!

BorLeumBanGerd, A warm welcome back to Lao Pride.   :)

Think of it this way, if you're a homeless person who now have a roof over your head and you have meals to eat, your life condition has improved, but you're not rich.

Many things are improving in Laos, but people are not rich. That's all I can say at this point in time. I'm not an economist or one who works in the Government sector, what do you want me to do, provide you with a detailed list of the country's income and expenditure?

Admins has great attitude, and show everybody respect. She don't have to answers anybody question. If she don't want to. In Socialist country you have to watch what you say. I Understand. Keep up the good work admins.


BorLeumBanGerd wrote on 10^th Aug, 2010 at 9:00pm:

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 8th Aug, 2010 at 11:10pm: Laos has been around for thousands of years, and we have never been wealthy and developed during our existence so I don't see that happening in the immediate future. We are improving as a country, but we won't be rich. It's good that the US takes care of the poor. In Laos, people have to find ways to survive on their own or their children helps them when they become old. WOW!!! :D It has been almost 9 months since I last signed on and posted.. and still ADMIN is still providing simple answers to difficult questions! ADMIN said "We are improving as a country, but we won't be rich." This statement alone tells me ADMIN is an idiot!

Lan Xang has summed it up well.

We allow members of Lao Pride to discuss about political issues or any issues for that matter, and we don't have any problems whatsoever, be it calling me an idiot.    :)

But if I deem that the issue being discussed is controversial, and by expressing my personal views with "clear answers" could pontentially harm me as a Lao citizen, sometimes you will find that I can't get involved with the topic, or I will resort to "simple answers". There may be times when I'm busy too.

Do whatever you want in Laos, have fun, party drink beerlao. But don't get involve in politics or talk about politics. When you're at somebody house you have to follow their rule. I'm no politicians. I was born after the Vietnam war. But i want to see peace and prosperity in Laos, and Lao people doing well.

And we want to see the overseas Lao people doing well, so they can bring their dollars and Euros into Laos and do their part in making the Lao economy grow.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 12^th Aug, 2010 at 12:36am:

And we want to see the overseas Lao people doing well, so they can bring their dollars and Euros into Laos and do their part in making the Lao economy grow.

I agreed with you Admins, and I'll spend lot of dollars for sure when I visit Laos.

America locks up more people than any other in the world.  Its a very purtanical place.  That is too bad.  They should legalize prostitution and other vice crimes.  Its silly and stupid to treat them as criminals.  Women should be free to do what they want with their own bodies.  Don't you agree?

Prostitution can lead to all sorts of crimes such as rape, forced prostitution, underage sex, murders and drugs. The US doesn't want to see any of those things happening in their country.

Women are free to do anything they want with their bodies in their own homes, but just don't sell it in clubs and streets. That's probably their message.

some dude said - "Our people just disgracing ourselves; Today we have no pride.   Lao people are trash to modern day world. We far behind. Lack of every things."

Hey Man, take a chill pill!  Whats wrong with you man?  You got beautiful sexy hot women - give em a break.  So the like to F**K!  So what?  Its better than what we got in the US - crazy Mother-F****** who like to kill, torture, rendition, bombing, invasions, occupations, war crimes - thats something to get angry about, not some beautiful, hot, sexy girls who likes to F**K.  Man, just be glad your women are so dam hot!  Jesus, America's got real problems - we are sicko - Lao girls I have known have been unbelievable. I envy you man and would love to be there with em.  You got millions over there, probably all wanting the same thing.  I'd rather F**K a Lao girl than any girl in the world.  You should be grateful they be so hot, not bashing em cause they like to do what God intended em to do.  You sound crazy enough to belong over here.  Want to trade places?

Hey man!  Didn't mean to come down so hard on you.  OK?  Its just I really dig your women.  They hot man!  And not racist like some other Asians I know

That's true, Lao people generally are not racist.

I don't think that America has real problems. There's a mixture of problems and wonderful things in every country including Laos.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 28^th Sep, 2010 at 12:06am:

That's true, Lao people generally are not racist. I don't think that America has real problems. There's a mixture of problems and wonderful things in every country including Laos.

Some of these member who are talking bad about Laos. They are not Lao, but just pretened to be Lao in Lao Pride.

  Re: Prostitution in Laos ? Why Lao?
Reply #127 - Yesterday at 8:06am  
Quote: I don't think that America has real problems. There's a mixture of problems and wonderful things in every country including Laos.

I think you are incorrect - America has real problems.  They may solve them but they are there.  For example, figures were released just today that show 1% of the population control 50% of the wealth and income of the country.  The top 2% control 75% of the wealth and income of the people.  Thats the highest disproportionate of wealth ever, even higher than 1928 before the Great Depression!  This has been made possible by 40 years of Republican rule (just like the before the Great Depression) with high taxes and cutting services to general public while slashing taxes of the very rich.  This cannot continue - if it does US will just be another "banana republic"...   And new figures released today show 35% of blacks now live below the poverty line.  Thats more than a 1/3 of a significant minority in the country. No country with such a large underclass of its citizens living below the poverty level "has no real problems"  especially in a country like the US with little or no safety net for its less well off citizens.   Likewise, a country that by far locks up more of its citizens in prison than any other country does not have problems.  Worse, the country is totally bankrupt.  Our insane wars have bankrupted the country.  It would take 5 TRILLION DOLLARS just to cover the US short term debt. We don't have it. At some point in time the Chinese and others who finance our debt are going to get fed up with loaning the US money and being paid back in worthless dollars.  The dollar has declined 95% of its value since the US went off the gold standard in the early 70s.  When the rest of the world stops accepting dollars all hell is going to break loose.  Don't tell me the US doesn't have serious problems.  But the overwhelming majority of people in the US are "fat, dumb and happy" and don't realize whats going on.  As such the problems are not being addressed and growing worse.

What does this have to do with Laos?  I don't know except there are a lot of Laotians here (I consider Laotian kids born here in the US to still be Laotian even though they are US citizens.  Correct?) in the US.  I haven't been affected yet.  My mother divorced my dad and married a rich American and after some problems went back to him so we are set.  But not everybody is and everybody will be affected if the US goes down the tubes.

What does this have to do with Laos? I'm just making a comparison. We also have debts and are no better off. Many people around the world still want to go to live and work in America regardless of their economic situation. You're lucky you're there now.

As far as the drop in the US dollar is concerned, it can be a good or bad thing depending on people's circumstances or the type of business they are involved in. For instance, it's bad for American holidaymakers to Laos, because they will get less kip notes in exchange for their dollar. It's good for local people in Laos because they get more dollar in exchange for their kip.

The race of a kid depends who their mum and dad is. If one of their parents is an American then I would consider the kid a Lao-American. If their parents are both Lao then they are a Lao person.

Where ever you live there is good and bad. For me and my family life is good in America.

      I'm Woodisan life in thailand,BKK, I have reading this forum do cause visible is sense everyone want follow technology ,Next time this matter will destroy our culture, our

     What we take pride in what we are. Do not go to receive a western culture, destroying our existing culture. Because what we as is urban agriculture Non-industrial city.

    He is a city gun weapons production. We can not compete with him. We live our brochures that big he is. Will make us happy.

   Today I need to visit laos very much it is city have is nature,I need to have family have land in Laos for use normal lifestyle.

I live in Thailand.  Any "prostitution" that I have seen in Thailand is not with beautiful young women like these photos, and it's rare to see prostitutes these days.

I do not live in Pattaya, BKK, or Phuket.

Regarding the money issue.  I have a decent income. I live in a very beautiful home.  I had a Lisu wife.  The Lisu have a lot of money.  If you are not continually throwing money at the Lisu, they will get her to leave you.  My  wife's mother is on my side.  It's not always "the family."  It's the social climate of their village.

The lying culture doesn't allow you to get to the truth so that you can deal with anything, because even if you can find the truth, the denial does not allow a conversation to take place.

I don't know about Laos, I hope to go to Laos for the first time in a week or so.  I think I will just go to Vientienne.  I am looking for advice on where to go, where to stay, what to see, who to contact, who not to contact. I am looking for advice and guidance. Any feed back will be appreciated.

The language barrier is probably the reason why you can't get to the truth in the conversation.

Even if you can speak abit of Lao, Thai or some Hill tribe language, it's not the same as someone who can speak fluently with each other.

1. My wife left me. I love her very much.  Divorce never makes anybody "set."  Marrying for "more money" never makes any body set.  People should be selling their love, love is free, not purchased and not rented.

2. Maybe some other guy offered her more money.  Or maybe she thinks she will get more money.  Maybe she will get more ice cream,  then get fat and hide in a closet, but she will get "more."  No man or woman can ever be appeased, not me, not you, not her, not him.  Try to be appeased or appease another. You will notice  a 100% failure rate.

3.  America has nothing to do with Laos.  Wrong.  Once China announces it is no longer supporting America's debt ... within 15 days, the world will go into a depression that is unparalleled.

4.  People need a mate that will be theirs regardless of circumstances, wealth, or fortunes coming or going.  Love is not what you can take but what you can give.

5.  I am very lonely right now.  I would like to meet a really beautiful woman to LOVE ME, but not one to "sex me."  I am not interested in sex, I am interested in love.  Love is giving, love is not taking.  Divorce is just wrong, it affects thousands and thousands of people, just two people have networks that are amazingly large, and which become alarmingly noticeable when divorce and separation enters.  Mental problems come mostly from divorce





hotlaogirl wrote on 29^th Sep, 2010 at 1:31pm:

Re: Prostitution in Laos ? Why Lao? Reply #127 - Yesterday at 8:06am   Quote: I don't think that America has real problems. There's a mixture of problems and wonderful things in every country including Laos. I think you are incorrect - America has real problems.  They may solve them but they are there.  For example, figures were released just today that show 1% of the population control 50% of the wealth and income of the country.  The top 2% control 75% of the wealth and income of the people.  Thats the highest disproportionate of wealth ever, even higher than 1928 before the Great Depression!  This has been made possible by 40 years of Republican rule (just like the before the Great Depression) with high taxes and cutting services to general public while slashing taxes of the very rich.  This cannot continue - if it does US will just be another "banana republic"...   And new figures released today show 35% of blacks now live below the poverty line.  Thats more than a 1/3 of a significant minority in the country. No country with such a large underclass of its citizens living below the poverty level "has no real problems"  especially in a country like the US with little or no safety net for its less well off citizens.   Likewise, a country that by far locks up more of its citizens in prison than any other country does not have problems.  Worse, the country is totally bankrupt.  Our insane wars have bankrupted the country.  It would take 5 TRILLION DOLLARS just to cover the US short term debt. We don't have it. At some point in time the Chinese and others who finance our debt are going to get fed up with loaning the US money and being paid back in worthless dollars.  The dollar has declined 95% of its value since the US went off the gold standard in the early 70s.  When the rest of the world stops accepting dollars all hell is going to break loose.  Don't tell me the US doesn't have serious problems.  But the overwhelming majority of people in the US are "fat, dumb and happy" and don't realize whats going on.  As such the problems are not being addressed and growing worse. What does this have to do with Laos?  I don't know except there are a lot of Laotians here (I consider Laotian kids born here in the US to still be Laotian even though they are US citizens.  Correct?) in the US.  I haven't been affected yet.  My mother divorced my dad and married a rich American and after some problems went back to him so we are set.  But not everybody is and everybody will be affected if the US goes down the tubes.

I would like to say to the guy in texas it is easy to insult president or someone in power when you are safe in another country ,go and live in north korea and make a comment about the president of that country
you are a very imature person whatever your age,the mod is right,my wife is a very lovely thai girl who chose to work in a factory for little cash
while girls in her village went to bk to work in the go go bars ,like she says you must have pride in yourself ,yes i am sure that many girls are forced into that life but most love it, :(

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hi mod lovely girl who is she ,a bit like my wife,i must say looking at a beutiful girl always lift my spirits,we will be in vientien in a couple of weeks time,love to know if you are real  ;)

I don't know her personally, but we will show pictures of clubs and bars throughout the year.

I hope you enjoy your stay in Vientiane.

Thanks for sharing......such a lovely beautiful girl...I gotta go back to Laos again. Can you tell me where she works? I want to stop by and say hello. I know she probably got 50 boyfriends already.   :)

They change around alot, and never in one place, like the Beerlao girls.

Admin, you are wrong on this.  >:(

Giving money to prostitutes is not going to help them, not for long term for sure, unless you can afford to give them enough to provide for their family for the rest of their lives. After all, can you afford to give them enough to take them off prostitution?

I think education is the foundation which then leads to professionalism of which provides foods and shelters. When you have all this in place, prostitution won't be an option for any soul.


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21^st Dec, 2009 at 2:08am:

Give them some money. After all that's what they are doing it for.   ::)

Government need to provide better paying jobs and opportunity for the young people so they don't get trick into sex trade. Government need to crackdown on prostittution. We don't want Laos to be like Thailand.  

Lao Dreamer, That comment by me was meant as a joke, but a true one.

Obviously you alone can't help them enough, but remember it's not just you who will give them money but there are many other customers, so they keep getting these regular streams of income.

It's easy to talk about education, but if one's heart and mind does not want to study then it's their problem.

Nobody want to work at sex worker. If they have other alternative to make a good living, but some has no choice because of poverty. Poverty lead to crimes, prostitution and drug. Nobody want to be poor.
8-)

I believe that some people want to work as a sex worker.

Like I mentioned earlier, there is a choice, but they prefer to have sex for a living than cleaning dishes because income is over ten times more.
 
No one is living in extreme poverty. I'm sure that their families live in a house and not under a bridge.

There will also be prostitution. Just don't want to see Laos like the neighboring country.
:o

I agree that there are jobs out there, but it is a question of if the wages are enough for a living. Most unskilled jobs such as housekeeper, child minder in Vientiane for example earn up to Kip 500,000 per month, factory workers and labourers earn up to Kip 900,000 per month for 6 days work per week 10-12 hours per day. Not enough money for anyone, not to mention a single mum with old/retired parents to look after. Most Lao retired people do not have pension so they depend on their children to provide foods, medications, shelters and bills, and all the shits we all need for everyday living you name it. This money does not get you far at all.

It may be true that most people in Laos earns lightly more than 1 dollar a day but what about the minority who don't? What about those living in rural areas with no jobs, who can't read, can't write because there's no school to go to to start with? Do you really think that there is even a toilet cleaning job for them?

I don't think most prostitutes enjoy what they do, whilst some of them may. I can't imagine being forced by a pim to have sex with someone is an enjoyment despite all free drinks and tips.

LP Admin, you make prostitution seems and sounds like an ideal if not a dream jobs for women. I would really like to know where you get your information from.





Admin Saovaluck wrote on 23^rd Dec, 2009 at 3:46am:

TT, there is no last resort. There are jobs if they are willing to work the hard way and earn a monthly income like other people. With prostitution, it is very easy to earn quick "cash in hand" every day. They also get free tips and drinks from customers and free accommodation and meals supplied by the pimps who look after them. And not to the mention the enjoyment of socialising every night. They enjoy it, they don't need to support their families. Their parents are old enough to support themselves and it's their responsibility to support their children. If they can't do that then they are not good parents. Most people in Laos earn more than US$1 a day.

Well said Lao Dreamer.
8-) ;) :)


Lao Dreamer wrote on 5^th Feb, 2011 at 12:58pm:

I agree that there are jobs out there, but it is a question of if the wages are enough for a living. Most unskilled jobs such as housekeeper, child minder in Vientiane for example earn up to Kip 500,000 per month, factory workers and labourers earn up to Kip 900,000 per month for 6 days work per week 10-12 hours per day. Not enough money for anyone, not to mention a single mum with old/retired parents to look after. Most Lao retired people do not have pension so they depend on their children to provide foods, medications, shelters and bills, and all the shits we all need for everyday living you name it. This money does not get you far at all. It may be true that most people in Laos earns lightly more than 1 dollar a day but what about the minority who don't? What about those living in rural areas with no jobs, who can't read, can't write because there's no school to go to to start with? Do you really think that there is even a toilet cleaning job for them? I don't think most prostitutes enjoy what they do, whilst some of them may. I can't imagine being forced by a pim to have sex with someone is an enjoyment despite all free drinks and tips. LP Admin, you make prostitution seems and sounds like an ideal if not a dream jobs for women. I would really like to know where you get your information from. Admin Saovaluck wrote on 23rd Dec, 2009 at 3:46am: TT, there is no last resort. There are jobs if they are willing to work the hard way and earn a monthly income like other people. With prostitution, it is very easy to earn quick "cash in hand" every day. They also get free tips and drinks from customers and free accommodation and meals supplied by the pimps who look after them. And not to the mention the enjoyment of socialising every night. They enjoy it, they don't need to support their families. Their parents are old enough to support themselves and it's their responsibility to support their children. If they can't do that then they are not good parents. Most people in Laos earn more than US$1 a day.

If people felt that they weren't paid enough, then we wouldn't have any maids, factory workers and labourers in Laos.

I'm a city person and can get by, but I have friends and relatives in the countryside who are poor and they don't turn to prostitution. There's no toilet cleaning jobs for them out there, but there are other choices for them to earn a living. Some friends come to the city to work as a cleaner, welder and security guard.

No girl in Laos is locked up as a slave and being forced by a pimp to have sex. They can call it quits and return back home if they didn't like what they're doing, but they want to stay. Prostitution is not their dream job, but it's the job they would rather do than the choices of jobs available.

If the girl and boy has a good paying jobs then they wouldn't work at sex worker. And don't have to go look for jobs in Thailand.

Maybe Laos would have been better off as U.S colony then Vietnam colony. After 35 year under Vietnam we are still the least developing country in Southeast Asia.
:-?

Some wealthy girls also become full-time prostitutes in Laos, because that's the sort of environment they enjoy.

Money is not the issue here. It all starts with how they were raised by their parents, and also how the parents themselves were raised up.

Regardless of how poor their family appears, there are girls who will not even think of becoming a prostitute, due to the way they were brought up.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 6^th Feb, 2011 at 8:05pm:

Some wealthy girls also become full-time prostitutes in Laos, because that's the sort of environment they enjoy. Money is not the issue here. It all starts with how they were raised by their parents, and also how the parents themselves were raised up. Regardless of how poor their family appears, there are girls who will not even think of becoming a prostitute, due to the way they were brought up.

Poverty lead to crimes and prostitution. Most do it because of money. Most rich, educated or successful people will not work in sex trade . Most poor people do because they don't have much choices, look at Thailand for example most sex worker are from Issan. Monthly income in Issan is about $200, but in Bangkok about $700. People has to eat and feed their family. It's human nature people will do whatever to survive.

In America yearly income is $47,000 a year, but we still have some prostitution. Its all depend on the person situation. People work in sex trade for many reason. Many are victims of human trafficking. There's no justification wrong is wrong you can't just go robbed the bank and think its ok because you want too.
:-?

Like I said, poor people will never think of becoming prostitutes if they were raised in a family environment with high standards. Poor people also have high standards.

Even if they don't have enough employment choices, it's pretty low in anyone's language to choose to sell their body.

People have food to eat in Laos, their needs are already met, even if means going fishing for food and growing their own vegies. The main reason they become prostitutes is because their wants are not fulfilled. They want mobile phones, motorbikes, TV, etc.

Many in Laos live $1 a day. Even $100 a month is not enough for food, gas, car insurance, pay rent. After that you won't have much to spend. The more people make the more they'll spend. Which is good for economy. If people make less they'll spend less.

It's human nature everybody want the best in life. Good jobs, nice house, nice car. Its wrong? No. We're human being after all.
8-) ;)

Many Lao teens have enough money to purchase whisky!

I don't think they can afford that with $1 a day.


http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/laopride82.jpg




http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/laopride83.jpg

Some rich and many poor. I'm not saying everybody in Laos live under $1 a day. I say many.

Maybe Laos will become more develope and prosper when government decide to abandon Communism. There'll be more jobs opportunity, more people will become rich, more business, more company will open up in Laos.
8-) :)

According to business for Millenium development.

2 million or 30.7% Lao live beneath poverty line.
1.8 million or 27% live on less then $1 a day.
4.8 million or 74% live on less then $2 a day.
Only 63% of Lao children reach grade 5.

Good thing Lao government don't have democracy and election. People will votes all of them out of offices. This is what Pathet Lao fought so hard for, just to bring poverty and communism to Laos.

I don't mind socialism, if Lao government can develope the country like China or Singapore. Until then I say   :P :D  to Commies.

LP Admin, seems like you have had bad experience with prostitutes. Perhaps you are surrounded with too many of them in the city where you live that nothing or no one could convince you that for some unfortunate women prostitution is not about choices.

I absolutely disgust those who turned prostitutes by choice and for those you can look down and condemn as much as you like. However though do spare some thoughts and sympathy for those who do not have any choices that you and I have. After all Lao people are known for being kind and friendly....

There's always a choice, some people have more and some people have less of it than others, but there's options out there.

Prostitution is illegal in Laos anyway, so they're not even supposed to be prostituting.

I sympathise those who legitimately look for work, but get tricked into another country to work as a slave in the sex industry.

However, in Laos, no one is being tricked, it's a choice to be a prostitute.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 26^th Dec, 2009 at 11:55pm:

We suffer while we are alive. That's why when there is a new born baby, we go to "Ngun Gum" in Lao culture. "Gum" is all about stress and misery ahead in life. And when someone dies, we go to "Hean Dee", meaning "Good house". It is "dee" because they are in peace, there is no more suffering and unhappiness for them. So remember the words "Ngun Gum" and "Hean Dee". ;D http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/beautiful-laomodels.jpg

Are these your breast, 'nang'?

You have a REALLY nice body!

I get an odd feeling that somehow you despise your fellow 'sisters' that work as 'maa-jahng'. Am I right or not?

I don't think anyone in a proper state of mind actually wants to auction themselves off to the highest bidder. Not everybody is well-off as you are 'nang'.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 8^th Feb, 2011 at 2:26am:

Many Lao teens have enough money to purchase whisky! I don't think they can afford that with $1 a day. http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/laopride82.jpg Are these girls 'ga-lee'? http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/laopride83.jpg

Larb Dip wrote on 19^th Mar, 2011 at 10:06am:

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 26th Dec, 2009 at 11:55pm: We suffer while we are alive. That's why when there is a new born baby, we go to "Ngun Gum" in Lao culture. "Gum" is all about stress and misery ahead in life. And when someone dies, we go to "Hean Dee", meaning "Good house". It is "dee" because they are in peace, there is no more suffering and unhappiness for them. So remember the words "Ngun Gum" and "Hean Dee". ;D http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/beautiful-laomodels.jpg Are these your breast, 'nang'? You have a REALLY nice body!

Hi Larb Dip

Please have control over your self and do give some respect to Admin. I am sure you don't want anyone to talk to your family member that way.
by the way..I do suspect she is not what she claim to be. She maybe a male, and she also could be living in Australia.....

Tee, Thank you for telling him to show some respect towards me. And for the record, I am female from Laos.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 19^th Mar, 2011 at 6:49pm:

Tee, Thank you for telling him to show some respect towards me. And for the record, I am female from Laos.

I respect your debating skilled and knowledge Admins. I think Larb Dip is a women just the way she talk.
8-) :o ::)

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 12^th Aug, 2010 at 12:36am:

And we want to see the overseas Lao people doing well, so they can bring their dollars and Euros into Laos and do their part in making the Lao economy grow.

We are going to do our part to help to help your economy in May, and have a great time doing it too!

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 19^th Mar, 2011 at 6:49pm:

Tee, Thank you for telling him to show some respect towards me. And for the record, I am female from Laos.

I already 'know' that you are indeed a woman based on your prose alone.

Is that even your photo or are you just a 50 year old bachelorette trying to imposter yourself as a 'pu-sao'?

llX wrote on 19^th Mar, 2011 at 9:36pm:

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 19th Mar, 2011 at 6:49pm: Tee, Thank you for telling him to show some respect towards me. And for the record, I am female from Laos. I respect your debating skilled and knowledge Admins. I think Larb Dip is a women just the way she talk. 8-) :o ::)

I have 3 thumbs. How's that to cast away any doubts, brother. ;D

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 6^th Feb, 2011 at 12:17am:

If people felt that they weren't paid enough, then we wouldn't have any maids, factory workers and labourers in Laos. I'm a city person and can get by, but I have friends and relatives in the countryside who are poor and they don't turn to prostitution. There's no toilet cleaning jobs for them out there, but there are other choices for them to earn a living. Some friends come to the city to work as a cleaner, welder and security guard. No girl in Laos is locked up as a slave and being forced by a pimp to have sex. They can call it quits and return back home if they didn't like what they're doing, but they want to stay. Prostitution is not their dream job, but it's the job they would rather do than the choices of jobs available.

Well said, Admin! If you raise children in a home with high moral standards, no matter how poor that home may be financially, the children are more inclined to reject those things, drugs, prostitution, crime, alternate-lifestyles, etc.

A child's mind can be shaped and molded like clay, but you can not be a hypocrite in any issues you try to impress upon them. If they see you do that on one issue they will reject your teaching on all other issues.

Being poor isn't an excuse to make poor choices in life. Greedy people always fall, sooner or later.

I don't think many 50 year old women in Laos use the internet.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 20^th Mar, 2011 at 12:55am:

I don't think many 50 year old women in Laos use the internet.

Okay, I'll take your word on that.

So how about answering the question now: is that you or not?

Yes, if you are referring to my avatar.

Please keep questions and comments related to Laos, and especially the topic in question.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 20^th Mar, 2011 at 3:43am:

Yes, if you are referring to my avatar. Please keep questions and comments related to Laos, and especially the topic in question.

Okay. If tha's how you want to play. Anything for you FRIEND.

That got my crytic mind thinking though..........what if I started an exclusive topic all in your honour 'nang', then perhaps you could answer because we wouldn't be detouring from the main topic, right?

You REALLY need to answer this one because I have taken your past 'silences' as a hint of assent.

'Cryptic mind' not 'critic mind' :D

It's better if you started a topic honouring Laos.

Last year I went to Thailand and Laos. I had seen it all.........
I been there during the red-shirt protested in Bankcock and I was there to melt with my ppl  while Seh Deang got killed by sniper. Woo what's mess......If you have a Lao-Blood in you"Issaan"  living in Thailand. Thai-Bankcock look at you like the bunch of trash. They will shoot at you or kill you like an animal.

2 weeks in Viengchaa. I be damn every corners in Vientiane are fill with the Ho-houses. They even have the Gay Bar in Laos call: " SORLADIT ".

The old cinema at Sisangvong turned to be a Night Club. I would rather call the Drug-house. And Five Star Hotel at DonChan were fill with the Crack-heads and smell like piss in there.....

I thought Laos would be better than that; like most of the Lao ppl are living in Laos had said.

Rich get richer and poor get poorer.....Govt corrupted ppl will be poor and broke.

Sad Sad Sad.........but lives have to go on

I guess you mean Soradith? Not everyone in there is gay, but they cater mainly gay men.

I notice as well too in many films and concerts from Thailand, they always promote this gay(lady-boy) crap.  The US is getting out of control as well.  I'd say at least 5/10 films will have gay characters or some sort of gay reference in it, even in children movies.  It is really sickening.

OMD wrote on 2^nd Apr, 2011 at 8:35am:

I notice as well too in many films and concerts from Thailand, they always promote this gay(lady-boy) crap.  The US is getting out of control as well.  I'd say at least 5/10 films will have gay characters or some sort of gay reference in it, even in children movies.  It is really sickening.

You sound homophobic.

Larb Dip wrote on 2^nd Apr, 2011 at 9:24am:

OMD wrote on 2nd Apr, 2011 at 8:35am: I notice as well too in many films and concerts from Thailand, they always promote this gay(lady-boy) crap.  The US is getting out of control as well.  I'd say at least 5/10 films will have gay characters or some sort of gay reference in it, even in children movies.  It is really sickening. You sound homophobic.

I am not homophobic.  I have friends and people I know that are gay.  I just don't like it to be exploited in a films generally, because it always have  sexual references/twist.  If you have nieces and nephews would you pay to go watch a G-rated film promoting this garbage?  There's no need for it.

They say it's easier to make a living by being gay or a ladyboy in Thailand.

The Thais like to use them as humour on TV, even their music videos have gay references. Personally, I don't mind it, and it's funny for most viewers in this part of the world, maybe because we are used to seeing these kinds of things.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 2^nd Apr, 2011 at 7:20pm:

They say it's easier to make a living by being gay or a ladyboy in Thailand. The Thais like to use them as humour on TV, even their music videos have gay references. Personally, I don't mind it, and it's funny for most viewers in this part of the world, maybe because we are used to seeing these kinds of things.

Maybe it's just me, but the humor is too repetitive it gets old fast. If you don't mind me asking does the rating go up or down with these characters in the films or music videos since it is accepted in Thailand or Laos?

Just for you JACKSPADE ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zPNLExYxqQ

JSEA wrote on 2^nd Apr, 2011 at 7:41pm:

Just for you JACKSPADE ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zPNLExYxqQ

That is just outright wrong!! LOL.  I saw the first 10 secs of it that was enough for me.

Prostittute and selling drugs is easy money. That's why many do it for love of the money. Money is the root of all evil.
:o


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 2^nd Apr, 2011 at 7:20pm:

They say it's easier to make a living by being gay or a ladyboy in Thailand. The Thais like to use them as humour on TV, even their music videos have gay references. Personally, I don't mind it, and it's funny for most viewers in this part of the world, maybe because we are used to seeing these kinds of things.

Thailand is known as sex tourist paradise.
:D


OMD wrote on 2^nd Apr, 2011 at 8:07pm:

JSEA wrote on 2nd Apr, 2011 at 7:41pm: Just for you JACKSPADE ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zPNLExYxqQ That is just outright wrong!! LOL.  I saw the first 10 secs of it that was enough for me.

Hahahahahaha. It's a reallly popular song here in Thailand too. I actually like the song...the video not so much. It was funny the first time, but seeing two fat comedians making out with each other is a bit much, almost like watching two fat old grannies make out.

Unfortunately I have to watch it, I'm trying to learn the lyrics so I can drunkenly sing along when I go out :D.

JACKSPADE, Their ratings probably improve because people watch these characters to have a laugh.

How do you distinguish the 'innocent' from the promiscuous?

When I say to a potential sohpeni/mae jang/pusao har ngeun/galee: 'Lets go. Lets go. To the hotel. Lets go.'.
How do I prevent myself from mistaken identity and walking into a slap?

What are the tells?

How do I know who's working as a prostitute and who's not?      

CAN YOU ANSWER NOW, SEAW? :D
 

Well, if she is prepared to go to your hotel room then that's a pretty good sign that she's a prostitute.

Also if money is involved in dealings with her, then it's an obvious sign too.

Obviously you don't comprehend the REAL question I'm tryinging to ask here, so I'll just stop with these 'ridiculous' questions. 8-)

You were referring to this set of questions - in particular - as being ridiculous, right? ;D

Yes, I don't think I need to answer silly things that you already know.

You mentioned that you associate with working ladies on a regular basis, so you know about them more than I do.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 15^th Apr, 2011 at 11:40pm:

Yes, I don't think I need to answer silly things that you already know. You mentioned that you associate with working ladies on a regular basis, so you know about them more than I do.

I'm gonna ask this one last question concerning your 'sisters', just so you DO understand the intended enquiry:

When I go to 'auctions' in Laos - they are everywhere, aren't they? - how do I know which 'items' are for sale and which are only for display?  

That's what I REALLY wanted to know. Just from observing alone. No contact made yet. What are the giveaways? Now I'm gonna reiterate what I said earlier as well and why it's hard for ME to make the distinction: These days even the offsprings of influental men who supposedly sire 'innocent' girls, don pieces of cloth that are small - but large enough - to only shield their buttocks, nipples and areolas.

They all dress alike nowadays. I'm sure you've noticed nang.

How does one make the educated guess as to who's promiscuos and who's naive?

What "auctions" are you talking about? You're not being specific.

You're right that girls dress alike, so it comes down to your "observation". If she's always dressing in sexy outfits then she's most likely a prostitute.

You also have to observe what she is often doing during the night, this in particular tells the whole story. Does she usually stay at home, or is she always seen hanging around clubs and guesthouses, things like that.

So seeing a girl for the first time can be hard to guess sometimes. You need to see what she is doing, and how she is dressed each day. An innocent girl wouldn't dress sexy every day for example.

A lot of it is down to WHERE you are making contact with the girls.  The places where you can hook up with the girls you are talking about are well known. (Don't ask me where they are - I'm Old Man, remember.... ;))

Also, the biggest sign is that those girls in those places would approach you and most likely invite you to buy them a drink, not the other way around.  Something a regular Lao girl would never do.

wrote on 16^th Apr, 2011 at 3:02am:

Also, the biggest sign is that those girls in those places would approach you and most likely invite you to buy them a drink, not the other way around.

Never had that happen to me....yet. That would indeed make the 'hunting' experience more convenient for sure. I don't know, but half a decade seems long enough. The pusao seem more brazen these days. ;)

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 16^th Apr, 2011 at 1:00am:

What "auctions" are you talking about? You're not being specific. You're right that girls dress alike, so it comes down to your "observation". If she's always dressing in sexy outfits then she's most likely a prostitute. You also have to observe what she is often doing during the night, this in particular tells the whole story. Does she usually stay at home, or is she always seen hanging around clubs and guesthouses, things like that. So seeing a girl for the first time can be hard to guess sometimes. You need to see what she is doing, and how she is dressed each day. An innocent girl wouldn't dress sexy every day for example.

Okay. So you're not as ambiguously minded as I thought. I'll just have to relay things to you straight and literal from now on. I thought the quotation marks were giveaways. Obviously not. I used 'auction' as an analogy for the 'meat markets' where the pusao LITERALLY auction their bodies off to randy clients.

You still don't UNDERSTAND me nang. I don't have time to follow my nose stalking the scent of tuna around night after night. There are plenty of fishes in the sea. Plenty for everybody infact! what I really wanted to know is: HOW DO I SUM UP THE SITUATION IN 5 -10 MINUTES? I want to be in-and-out (in both senses of the phrase). ;)

IF ANYBODY KNOWS ON THIS FORUM, YOU SHOULD, RIGHT? :)

Maybe you can just ask the girl if she is a prostitute. Most likely shell tell you straight up. And then you can ask about the prices.
:o :D


Larb Dip wrote on 16^th Apr, 2011 at 3:50am:

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 16th Apr, 2011 at 1:00am: What "auctions" are you talking about? You're not being specific. You're right that girls dress alike, so it comes down to your "observation". If she's always dressing in sexy outfits then she's most likely a prostitute. You also have to observe what she is often doing during the night, this in particular tells the whole story. Does she usually stay at home, or is she always seen hanging around clubs and guesthouses, things like that. So seeing a girl for the first time can be hard to guess sometimes. You need to see what she is doing, and how she is dressed each day. An innocent girl wouldn't dress sexy every day for example. Okay. So you're not as ambiguously minded as I thought. I'll just have to relay things to you straight and literal from now on. I thought the quotation marks were giveaways. Obviously not. I used 'auction' as an analogy for the 'meat markets' where the pusao LITERALLY auction their bodies off to randy clients. You still don't UNDERSTAND me nang. I don't have time to follow my nose stalking the scent of tuna around night after night. There are plenty of fishes in the sea. Plenty for everybody infact! what I really wanted to know is: HOW DO I SUM UP THE SITUATION IN 5 -10 MINUTES? I want to be in-and-out (in both senses of the phrase). ;) IF ANYBODY KNOWS ON THIS FORUM, YOU SHOULD, RIGHT? :)

That's true. Be upfront and ask her if she is a prostitute.
     
You don't care if she is offended, because your intentions is to look for someone for a one night stand, and not a girlfriend, from what I'm reading.

If you want to have someone as a girlfriend, then you have to follow up with what she's doing, as I've mentioned.

Business as usually, you want sex she want money. They say don't look for a wife or girlfriend at the bar or nightclub.
:D :o

Many Lao girls outside of bars and nightclubs can also be prostitutes, so you always need to be alert.

There are two types of prostitutes in Laos. The full-time prostitutes are found in bars and clubs every night to earn a living for themselves and their families.

And there are those who do it casually, like students whenever they need money for a new mobile/cell phone or something.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 16^th Apr, 2011 at 4:26am:

That's true. Be upfront and ask her if she is a prostitute. You don't care if she is offended, because your intentions is to look for someone for a one night stand, and not a girlfriend, from what I'm reading. If you want to have someone as a girlfriend, then you have to follow up with what she's doing, as I've mentioned. Many Lao girls outside of bars and nightclubs can also be prostitutes, so you always need to be alert. There are two types of prostitutes in Laos. The full-time prostitutes are found in bars and clubs every night to earn a living for themselves and their families. And there are those who do it casually, like students whenever they need money for a new mobile/cell phone or something.

I think I'll end up as the recipient of a slap (didn't I already mention this?).

I do care how people feel. I may be a horny Lao boy, but I am human.

If I WAS looking for a fan I wouldn't be looking to recruit a 'girlfriend' from the discussed venues! I would be greedy like the next guy and wouldn't want to share my meet around. Right?

I like that word 'alert'. Sounds like aiding and abetting a sex tourist. ;D

Where are the hotspots to pickup a 'casual' freelance prostitue? That would be better, I think. I could teach them a few things. I like playing that role. The girls that are being pimped are too savvy when when it comes to bedroom gymnastics. Some already start assuming positions as soon as the door is closed. Then there are the REAL brazen girls who start to dictate how THEY would like love to be made to them. If I'M paying then I'M starting off on top. That's non negotiable. >:(

Here's an off the head enquiry nang:

You say that you, too, have been a victim of mistaken identity. Some chinese guy made sexual advances towards you right? How did you feel after such an awakening?

Why don't you give me a rundown of the dialogue exchanged between you and that randy Chinaman?

THANKS FOR ALL THE TIPS AND POINTERS YOU HAVE SUPPLIED NANG. YOU REALLY DO CARE. :D

If you are worried about getting slapped or physically hurt, then ask her the question from a distance.

I don't know any hotspots for freelance prostitutes. You probably need someone to guide you there, jumbo/tuk tuk drivers know best.

I didn't say that a Chinese guy made sexual advances towards me. He was interested in a date, but I refused.

For sex tourist Thailand is a better choice sabai sabai. I wouldn't mess around in Laos. Prison in Laos is not pretty.
;D :D

That's not good if they need money or cell phone they should go work. What can they do Lao worker make about $100 a month not $3,000. If they can find a jobs.
:-/ :'(


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 16^th Apr, 2011 at 5:17am:

Many Lao girls outside of bars and nightclubs can also be prostitutes, so you always need to be alert. There are two types of prostitutes in Laos. The full-time prostitutes are found in bars and clubs every night to earn a living for themselves and their families. And there are those who do it casually, like students whenever they need money for a new mobile/cell phone or something.

llX wrote on 16^th Apr, 2011 at 7:55am:

For sex tourist Thailand is a better choice sabai sabai. I wouldn't mess around in Laos. Prison in Laos is not pretty. ;D :D

All the galee in Thailand are used up, man! Way too much aids.

There won't be prison if we can make 'bail', right? ;D

llX wrote on 16^th Apr, 2011 at 7:58am:

That's not good if they need money or cell phone they should go work. What can they do Lao worker make about $100 a month not $3,000. If they can find a jobs. :-/ :'( Admin Saovaluck wrote on 16th Apr, 2011 at 5:17am: Many Lao girls outside of bars and nightclubs can also be prostitutes, so you always need to be alert. There are two types of prostitutes in Laos. The full-time prostitutes are found in bars and clubs every night to earn a living for themselves and their families. And there are those who do it casually, like students whenever they need money for a new mobile/cell phone or something.

There are no jobs in Laos. Things happen for a reason.

Heres how I intend to break the ice. This is the best I could come up with:

'Jao ma har ngeun bo?'
Am I off to a good start?

'Bay long lahm bo? Bay see gun bo?'
Is that last line too direct? Should I use a pacifying euphemism instead? How about:

'Koy yark non gub jao'
Is that better?

Since you're a lady nang, maybe you can tell me how to gently approach a prostitute. Feel free to edit my lines on this post. :)

Prostitutes in Laos are not immune to AIDS either. If you are dealing with working girls in any country, then you're always at risk of any disease because you don't know them and their medical history.

Your lines are fine. You can ask them anything you like, young man. You're not planning to make friends with them, you're obviously planning to sleep with them, so be as direct as you like.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 16^th Apr, 2011 at 10:18am:

Prostitutes in Laos are not immune to AIDS either. If you are dealing with working girls in any country, then you're always at risk of any disease because you don't know them and their medical history. Your lines are fine. You can ask them anything you like, young man. You're not planning to make friends with them, you're obviously planning to sleep with them, so be as direct as you like.

I could do with more female companions like you! You are very mature for your age! I like your swag!!! :D

Believe it or not, but this is how my kin really conversates. We are very brazen where women are concerned. Pay ga yay pen bao pen sao mot la. We are all adults now and are treated accordingly. All the lude things that I have divulged to you, we actually discuss out in the open. The males, anyway. No bs. Some even refer 'prosties' to other kin like you would a good car salesman. This might sound a bit like incest, but it's not really, is it? I KNOW this type of behavour is prevalent among alot of Lao, not that most would own up to it though.

I think we all know that I'M the senior here. You need to respect your elders, even online nang. I think Ai Larb Dip sounds just right, don't you? ;D

Are all Lao girls open minded like you? Where can I find one? :D

Well, they wouldn't let me look after the forum if I was immature.   [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

Thanks for being open, but I don't think I really need to know what you and your male species like to discuss about.

I don't have any problems with the titles you call me, so please don't tell me what I should call you.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 16^th Apr, 2011 at 10:39pm:

Well, they wouldn't let me look after the forum if I was immature.   [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif] Thanks for being open, but I don't think I really need to know what you and your male species like to discuss about. I don't have any problems with the titles you call me, so please don't tell me what I should call you.

Don't lie.

How rude.

Sorry If I came off rude. I'll try to be a bit more gentle with you in future.

;D ;D well played Admin.

So where does one meet "normal" lao girls in Vientiane? Since half the hookers in bor bpen ngyan, future now, don chan, etc. look like normal girls just going out.

Or is it better just to assume 90% of the girls at bars are prostitutes?

JSEA wrote on 19^th Apr, 2011 at 4:27pm:

;D ;D well played Admin. So where does one meet "normal" lao girls in Vientiane? Since half the hookers in bor bpen ngyan, future now, don chan, etc. look like normal girls just going out. Or is it better just to assume 90% of the girls at bars are prostitutes?

I have already started to assume the same thing. Even the admin' couldn't dissuade me on this.

Yes, you can assume that a high percentage of the girls in bars are prostitutes.

But nightclubs like Future and Don Chan Palace are a total different thing, and not every girl can be assumed a prostitute. "Normal" Lao girls go there for entertainment as well.

If you are lucky, you might meet a girlfriend in a club because some people go to let their hair down to celebrate birthdays and other special occasions, but beer bars are the homes of prostitutes.

Whether or not she is a prostitute, she paid back your generosity.

There's no point asking whether or not a girl is a prostitute because you'll never get a straight answer. Even if a girl is a prostitute, it's a personal thing and she probably feels ashamed and embarrassed to be honest about it.

Instead of posing a direct question that could offend her, it's better to ask her a casual question.

Example:

"Do you know any good bar to have drinks?"
If she's very knowledgeable about bars then she's a prostitute.

"I'm staying alone in Laos, do you want to come and visit me?"
If she begins talking about fees then she's a prostitute.

Compliment her. "You look beautiful".
If she replies with Thank You, followed by honey, darling or sweetheart then she's a prostitute.

Yeah, I wasn't angry with her. Just surprised and confused...and a little worried that if I didn't pay up she'd go to the police. I think I'll stick to the 90% assumption in the future.

Thanks for the advice on what to say :)

Why were you concerned that she might go to the police, did you sleep with her?

This is why I just LOOOVE corresponding with you! Very upfront. No beating around the bush!

He's a guy, right? ;D

I'm not gonna answer that just in case you're really the police.

:P

That's okay, it's obvious without an answer anyway.

Even if I am a police, there's nothing I can do because you're in Thailand. And if you're in Laos, there's not enough evidence for an arrest because you weren't found with a girl.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21^st Apr, 2011 at 10:57pm:

Even if I am a police, there's nothing I can do because you're in Thailand. And if you're in Laos, there's not enough evidence for an arrest because you weren't found with a girl.

I'm sure if one was caught in the act, he could just hand over 'tea money', and he's off the hook, right?

That's an option.

Here's something that has been circulating in my mind recently that I think NEEDS to be answered:

How do I know when I'm being extorted?

Is the cop coughing into his fist? Is he rubbing his thumb across the tip of his fingers? Will he just come out and demand the money or what?
How will I know?

Hve you ever been extorted?

The police on the streets won't demand any money from you. They expect you to know yourself.

If they are going to arrest you for your wrongdoing, then just offer them some money for a coffee and they'll let you off the hook, but it depends on the seriousness of your offense.

I usually don't give the police any money because I know how to sweet talk them. If that doesn't work then I will pay them. If that doesn't work then it won't be problem for me because my connections knows some high ranking people to come to my rescue with any problems that I may be involved in, but I hope it never comes down to that.

You got connection. It that mean your relative or family member is one of a government officials? Then nobody will mess with you. Agreed they say "It's not what you know it's who you know."
:D :o





Admin Saovaluck wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 12:33am:

The police on the streets won't demand any money from you. They expect you to know yourself. If they are going to arrest you for your wrongdoing, then just offer them some money for a coffee and they'll let you off the hook, but it depends on the seriousness of your offense. I usually don't give the police any money because I know how to sweet talk them. If that doesn't work then I will pay them. If that doesn't work then it won't be problem for me because my connections knows some high ranking people to come to my rescue with any problems that I may be involved in, but I hope it never comes down to that.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 12:33am:

The police on the streets won't demand any money from you. They expect you to know yourself. If they are going to arrest you for your wrongdoing, then just offer them some money for a coffee and they'll let you off the hook, but it depends on the seriousness of your offense. I usually don't give the police any money because I know how to sweet talk them. If that doesn't work then I will pay them. If that doesn't work then it won't be problem for me because my connections knows some high ranking people to come to my rescue with any problems that I may be involved in, but I hope it never comes down to that.

Well, I've never been under the pump before, so I wouldn't know how to act. I was hoping you'd help me out on that.  I don't enquire just to annoy you, mate. ;) You should know by now that I'm one of the more vulnerable. My late night escapades are bound to get me into some heat. It's innevitable.

Can you give me some dialogue? I was thinking of: 'See aow bo ngeun?'. 'Aow, aow'. When I say that last line, ('Aow, aow') I'm literally shoving the ca$h into his breast pocket. Can I do that? Or do I need to actually offer to pay for his 'coffee', and make it sound more indirect and pleasant?

I knew it! I knew it! Your kin have influence, right? Political influence too?

I forgot:

How much for a cup of 'coffee'. :)

If you don't want to find yourself in a vulnerable position, then please do everything within the law while you are in Laos.

A cup of coffee in Laos is less than $1 US, but that's not enough to get you off the hook. "Here's some money for a cup of coffee" is just a polite saying.

I don't know anyone with a political influence, but they have some power over the police.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 2:17am:

If you don't want to find yourself in a vulnerable position, then please do everything within the law while you are in Laos. A cup of coffee in Laos is less than $1 US, but that's not enough to get you off the hook. "Here's some money for a cup of coffee" is just a polite saying. I don't know anyone with a political influence, but they have some power over the police.

You mean live legally as a law abiding citizen? That would mean no pusao for the great Larb Dip. Um.........................................I DON'T THIK SO! I can do everything else BUT refrain from getting my mortise and tenon on.

You really ARE literal minded. How much in US currency will I have to peel back to get me out handcuffs? And if I play the fool and don't offer any 'coffee money? What happens to me then?

You said that you 'sweet talk' these guy, right? Can I plagiarise one of your lines seaw. Give me an example seaw. I wouldn't want to hand over my hard earned too quickly.

What's then stopping these guys from 'hunting' vulnerable victims? What about in legitimate emergencies? How do they stack up?

There's no right amount. It depends whether they are happy with the amount you are offering them.

If you don't offer any coffee money, then they'll carry out the normal procedure and arrest you.

What legitimate emergencies?

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 28^th Apr, 2011 at 1:58am:

There's no right amount. It depends whether they are happy with the amount you are offering them. If you don't offer any coffee money, then they'll carry out the normal procedure and arrest you. What legitimate emergencies?

How am I supposed to know how much is enough? He won't come out and tell me, will he? How much will it knock me back if I get caught with my pants down while in the company of a sohpeni?

Does that mean a night in a comfortable Lao jail?

"What legitimate emergencies?". Is that a joke? Should I laugh? Or are you REALLY confused? You are really starting to become an Enigma seaw. ;D

ARE there such things in Laos as 'legitimate emergencies?'. What if some guy gets mugged? Is the cop going to demand to get 'paid' before he actually does his job? ;D I have a feeling the cop will be in favour - all day, every day - of the double-whammy, right? ;D

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 27^th Apr, 2011 at 12:33am:

I usually don't give the police any money because I know how to sweet talk them. If that doesn't work then I will pay them. If that doesn't work then it won't be problem for me because my connections knows some high ranking people to come to my rescue with any problems that I may be involved in, but I hope it never comes down to that.

You still haven't given me any of your 'sweet' lines yet seaw. Let me try it before handing over my hard earned.

What are you implying here? Why wouldn't they take your money? Why wouldn't that work?
Are you THAT type of girl? To the hotel is it? You don't need to hold out on any secrets with me seaw:-?

I already told you that you know if it is enough if they are happy with it. If they're not happy with it, then offer them a bit more.

They don't always accept your money. It depends on the seriousness of your offense. For example, the truck driver who killed my cousin in a road accident is currently serving time in jail because it's a major offense.

And your sweet lines?

Help me out seaw. :-X

It depends on the crime committed.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 29^th Apr, 2011 at 2:00am:

It depends on the crime committed.

Give me an example.

I can't, because I speak Lao with them and my response also depends what they say back, but its just for minor traffic offenses.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 29^th Apr, 2011 at 7:56pm:

I can't, because I speak Lao with them and my response also depends what they say back, but its just for minor traffic offenses.

All this 'sweet talk', does it involve you complimenting these officers? Are you flirting with them? :D Do you rub them on their chests, arms and backs? Anything of the sort? 8-)

Larb Dip wrote on 29^th Apr, 2011 at 9:03pm:

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 29th Apr, 2011 at 7:56pm: I can't, because I speak Lao with them and my response also depends what they say back, but its just for minor traffic offenses. All this 'sweet talk', does it involve you complimenting these officers? Are you flirting with them? :D Do you rub them on their chests, arms and backs? Anything of the sort? 8-)

If you ever get into serious trouble, I would recommend you try smooth talking with cash first.  And if that doesn't work, trying using the method you mentioned. The most important thing is at least you'll be off the hook right?:)  As for the Admin, I'm curious about it too. LOL

I just apologize and be respectful towards them, smile and laugh along with them, and make up excuses.

What excuses?

You gotta help me out here. I wan't to try out these 'excuses' too. ;)

They are just excuses once in a while for traffic offenses, nothing in relation to prostitution offenses.

You don't drive in Laos so you won't need to come up with excuses.

When you're in Laos used taxi. Less hassle.
;)

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 3^rd May, 2011 at 1:34am:

They are just excuses once in a while for traffic offenses, nothing in relation to prostitution offenses. You don't drive in Laos so you won't need to come up with excuses.

Knowing how to wriggle out of a traffic ticket is also vital information. So, hurry up and teach me 'master'. I'm all ears. :)

You're a foreigner, so there's no way out for you regardless of what you say. You're expected to pay a fine.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 3^rd May, 2011 at 11:15pm:

You're a foreigner, so there's no way out for you regardless of what you say. You're expected to pay a fine.

How would the cops know I'm a foreigner? You already know how fluent my Lao is! To camouflage in amongst the pasason is automatic to me!

Hurry up! I'm still waiting, seaw. :)

Just be polite as possible and explain to them that you didn't see the sign and it won't happen again.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 4^th May, 2011 at 10:47pm:

Just be polite as possible and explain to them that you didn't see the sign and it won't happen again.

What are you talking about?

What sign?

What law did you break?

I turned into a street that isn't allowed, from the direction I came from once.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 5^th May, 2011 at 12:53am:

I turned into a street that isn't allowed, from the direction I came from once.

Okay. That last sentence doesn't make sense. ;D ;D ;D

Why didn't you just do a runner? ;D ;D ;D

When I was in Laos, I never heard a police siren go off. Do they even have one mounted on their mopeds/vehicles that flash and revolve like disco paraphenalia?

I never saw an ambulance either. :-?

When a foreign leader visits Laos, you will see on Vientiane roads a huge long motorcade with sirens wailing, motorcycle outriders, many security vehicles and several ambulances in the motorcade.

It's really quite an impressive site.


Old Man

That's true, we have police sirens and ambulances in Laos.

They are also dispatched to emergency situations as well.

How much for a pusao these days?

Is it still $1000 Baht?

You mean 1,000 baht.

Don't ask me about price. The following page may be of assistance to you:

• The truth about Lao girls who sell their bodies

Most work in sex industry because of poverty and less opportunity. Same reason why many Isan work as sex worker in Thailand. Its like that in every part of the world. Not just Laos.
:-[ :-/ ::)


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 14^th May, 2011 at 10:05am:

You mean 1,000 baht. Don't ask me about price. The following page may be of assistance to you: The truth about Lao girls who sell their bodies

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 14^th May, 2011 at 10:05am:

You mean 1,000 baht. Don't ask me about price. The following page may be of assistance to you: The truth about Lao girls who sell their bodies

I've been on all the sister 'sites already. I must have perused everything at least twice! Not once did I come across prices.

Did you write all those articles nang?

Is it still going to cost me 1000 Baht, or has the price inflated? :-?

Larb Dip wrote on 14^th May, 2011 at 11:42pm:

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 14th May, 2011 at 10:05am: You mean 1,000 baht. Don't ask me about price. The following page may be of assistance to you: The truth about Lao girls who sell their bodies I've been on all the sister 'sites already. I must have perused everything at least twice! Not once did I come across prices. Did you write all those articles nang? Is it still going to cost me 1000 Baht, or has the price inflated? :-?

Hey buddy....U pay for sex? What a loser.

wrote on 15^th May, 2011 at 12:07am:

Larb Dip wrote on 14th May, 2011 at 11:42pm: Admin Saovaluck wrote on 14th May, 2011 at 10:05am: You mean 1,000 baht. Don't ask me about price. The following page may be of assistance to you: Another person agree with me about you Larbdip! The truth about Lao girls who sell their bodies I've been on all the sister 'sites already. I must have perused everything at least twice! Not once did I come across prices. Did you write all those articles nang? Is it still going to cost me 1000 Baht, or has the price inflated? :-? Hey buddy....U pay for sex? What a loser.

wrote on 15^th May, 2011 at 12:07am:

Larb Dip wrote on 14th May, 2011 at 11:42pm: Admin Saovaluck wrote on 14th May, 2011 at 10:05am: You mean 1,000 baht. Don't ask me about price. The following page may be of assistance to you: The truth about Lao girls who sell their bodies I've been on all the sister 'sites already. I must have perused everything at least twice! Not once did I come across prices. Did you write all those articles nang? Is it still going to cost me 1000 Baht, or has the price inflated? :-? Hey buddy....U pay for sex? What a loser.

You wont get it for free in Laos! ;D

STILL....U PAY FOR SEX. WHAT A LOSER......STICK TO CHOKING YA TADPOLE

You didn't read hard enough because they did mention that 1,000 baht is the average price.

I didn't write the article, but it's fairly new, so I doubt the pricing will change much.

admin- why do u keep changing my user name? Is that your communist upbringing that wants to stifle my freedom of expression?

I've asked you already to use an appropriate user name. You didn't listen, so I had no alternative but to change it myself.

We allow freedom of expression, and we welcome your participation on our forum, however we are not an adult site so please keep in mind that your user name must be suitable for the general audience, thank you.

Point taken.....but what is wrong with the name LaoLadyBoy...Ladyboy is just a term to refer to the 3rd sex. There is nothing offensive about it.

It's not offensive, but when visitors come here and see "LaoLadyBoy", they may get the wrong impression that this must be an adult site.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 15^th May, 2011 at 2:39am:

It's not offensive, but when visitors come here and see "LaoLadyBoy", they may get the wrong impression that this must be an adult site.

Well make it consistent then. Some of your members are talking about how much to rent a woman for the night. Visitors make look at these comments and also think its an adult site.

Personally, if visitors think the word Ladyboy is offensive then they just need to harden up.

Yes, but they are talking in the relevant section of the forum, which is obviously here.

These comments are only displayed on this thread, whereas your name may be displayed on many threads.


http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/beautiful-lao-girl.jpg

Is she a sohpeni?

Good point.
;) :)


wrote on 15^th May, 2011 at 3:56am:

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 15th May, 2011 at 2:39am: It's not offensive, but when visitors come here and see "LaoLadyBoy", they may get the wrong impression that this must be an adult site. Well make it consistent then. Some of your members are talking about how much to rent a woman for the night. Visitors make look at these comments and also think its an adult site. Personally, if visitors think the word Ladyboy is offensive then they just need to harden up.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 15^th May, 2011 at 4:06am:

Yes, but they are talking in the relevant section of the forum, which is obviously here. These comments are only displayed on this thread, whereas your name may be displayed on many threads. http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/beautiful-lao-girl.jpg

Wouldn't want to give visitors the wrong impression would you.

Nothing wrong with Admins posting the picture of Lao models.  
8-)


wrote on 15^th May, 2011 at 9:12pm:

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 15th May, 2011 at 4:06am: Yes, but they are talking in the relevant section of the forum, which is obviously here. These comments are only displayed on this thread, whereas your name may be displayed on many threads. http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/beautiful-lao-girl.jpg Wouldn't want to give visitors the wrong impression would you.

llX wrote on 15^th May, 2011 at 9:17pm:

Nothing wrong with Admins posting the picture of Lao models.   8-) wrote on 15th May, 2011 at 9:12pm: Admin Saovaluck wrote on 15th May, 2011 at 4:06am: Yes, but they are talking in the relevant section of the forum, which is obviously here. These comments are only displayed on this thread, whereas your name may be displayed on many threads. http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/beautiful-lao-girl.jpg Wouldn't want to give visitors the wrong impression would you.

On a thread about prostitution?

Purpose of this topic I had posted in this forum is trying to pointing the finger to the Corrupted Govt, and let our PPL to learn from the negative ways of lives and bring the positive ways to be useful to our culture. Time changed people need to change.

DO NOT LOOK AT THOSE PICTURE AS THE SEXUAL AD.

If Laos is really Open Up, Laos should creating job for Lao-ppl and help the poor get on their feet. Not to cross the border.

Maybe the Laos Govt should open more Ho-Houses in Laos instead of crossing the border to Thailand, it would attract the tourist to the Land of million elephant.

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 20^th May, 2011 at 1:15am:

If Laos is really Open Up, Laos should creating job for Lao-ppl and help the poor get on their feet. Not to cross the border. Maybe the Laos Govt should open more Ho-Houses in Laos instead of crossing the border to Thailand, it would attract the tourist to the Land of million elephant.

Well said. Why cross the river to 'work' abroad, when you can do it domestically. In the convenience of your own bedroom even. :-X

Does that sound like common sense to anyone else? :-?

Maybe they earn more in Thailand.

Another reason why some girls cross the river to work as a prostitute is to prevent people close to them (family, friends, relatives) from knowing about it.

The more sex worker go to Thailand the better. I don't want to see any in Laos. Laos is land of million elephant. Not sex capitals o the world.
:D ;D

Are there STD concern/problem in Laos?

STD, HIV is a problem but not as bad as Thiland.
:o


PEACE wrote on 20^th May, 2011 at 3:15am:

Are there STD concern/problem in Laos?

STD or HIV are spreading through out every corners in the country(Laos). There is no one care or had done anything about it.
Most of the Bar owners(Ho-Houses) are having the connection with the High Ranking Officials.

Corruption led to down fall to ours pride, we have no dignity of mankind. Money and power had made our human blind.

It sad but true, It hurt but can't do anything about.

The bar owners in Laos do care, they have a requirement to teach the girls about safe sex.

I would guess that these 'working girsl' in Tahiland are mainly from Issan and therefore they are mainly Lao girls :(.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 20^th May, 2011 at 2:35am:

Maybe they earn more in Thailand. Another reason why some girls cross the river to work as a prostitute is to prevent people close to them (family, friends, relatives) from knowing about it.

BS!!!

There are no secrets in Laos! Gossip is Laos' de facto national sport for many reasons! The 'truth' being one of them.

How are prostitutes viewed by the Lao community - in Laos? Isn't there a stigma attached to prostitutes? Or are they jusy accepted for who they are like ladyboys? :-?

Exactly, that's all they can resort to, "gossip". If their connections in Laos can't see them prostituting, they won't know the truth. That's why they go to Thailand.

Prostitutes are despised by many people in Laos. Those who accept them for who they are, are mainly the playboys.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 20^th May, 2011 at 9:32pm:

Exactly, that's all they can resort to, "gossip". If their connections in Laos can't see them prostituting, they won't know the truth. That's why they go to Thailand.

The majority of Lao people don't just 'report on news' improvised out of thin air. Most of the gossip is either true (although WITH exagerations) or are educated guesses. Like someone from a meeker family crossing the River, for instance. Although they will use the euphemism: bay har ngeuan. We all have the notion they're really going to bay kiy doh.



Admin Saovaluck wrote on 20^th May, 2011 at 9:32pm:

Prostitutes are despised by many people in Laos. Those who accept them for who they are, are mainly the playboys.

Yep, you got that right, baby! ;)

We need the sexual releif; they need the money. It's a win-win situation for everybody involved. The dispisers-slash-envious-slash-'news reporters' are only those that miss out (and with nothing else better to do with their free time than speak of other peoples affairs ;D.)

Prostitutes should be accepted by now. They've been around for many centuries and will continue to linger for even longer, or until that 2012 prediction wipes us all out.

By the way, buddy, how do YOU feel about prosties? :-?

Many of the 3 million sex worker in Thailand are from Isan. They're Lao. Isan is the poorest and least developed region in Thailand. They kept them poor for a reason. Nobody will work as prostituted if they have good jobs and education.
;)


PEACE wrote on 20^th May, 2011 at 12:08pm:

I would guess that these 'working girsl' in Tahiland are mainly from Issan and therefore they are mainly Lao girls :(.

hahaha.....Lap Dip......The loser who pays for sex. Can kinda figure out why he has to based on his attitude.

Not having a good job or education is no excuse to become a prostitute.

It would never cross their mind if they come from a good family upbringing.

Hopefully the 'opened' Laos can create more job opportunities for these working ladies as an option for them to make money from another avenue to support thmselves and family members :).

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21^st May, 2011 at 1:12am:

Not having a good job or education is no excuse to become a prostitute. It would never cross their mind if they come from a good family upbringing.

Now you're looking down on people. You make it sound as if there's nothing else they'd rather do.

Of course they'd rather do other things. Sometimes we want a career in a particular field, however there's no excuse to lower yourself if that field doesn't come your way.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21^st May, 2011 at 8:06am:

Of course they'd rather do other things. Sometimes we want a career in a particular field, however there's no excuse to lower yourself if that field doesn't come your way.

What else are they going to do? :-?

Sit at home and use their brains for a start.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21^st May, 2011 at 10:08am:

Sit at home and use their brains for a start.

Like THAT'LL pay the bills.

There's always something to buy to make life worth living. People need to eat. There has to be fun in peoples lives.

It's blatant we don't see eye to eye on this issue. Why do you despise your 'sisters' so much?

You don't understand what I am saying. They need to use their brains and find a decent job, I can't think for them.

Yes people need to eat, but didn't they eat something before they chose the path of a prostitute?

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21^st May, 2011 at 10:43am:

You don't understand what I am saying. They need to use their brains and find a decent job, I can't think for them. Yes people need to eat, but didn't they eat something before they chose the path of a prostitute?

How would I know? ;D ;D ;D Maybe their food ran out. Maybe they're sick of dipping their rice balls into salt for breakfast, lunch and dinner. It's hard for you to imagine - from their vantage points - what life is like for those born into unfavourable circumstances. You're still in possesion of your 'mint' BMW, right?

Whenever I take a girl back to the hotels (why won't they consent to going back to my village?) and snake my way up into their gland(s), after my King Cobra 'spits' it's venom, of course - during the 'interval', I like to call it - I DO ask them why they get into the worlds oldest profession. Not once has a prostitute implied - you know how they like to beat around the bush - that she actually likes the 'job'. I also inferred - from their mannerisms - that they'd rather be somewhere else. However, they DO put on a good performance. ;)

Why do you despise your 'sisters' so much?

You're such a knob buddy. Paying for sex, exploiting Laotian woman. And u ain't even a real kiwi

They don't look malnourished or anorexic, so it's safe to say that they've been eating more than just rice balls with salt.
 
I have a mixture of rich and poor relatives in Laos so I understand different situations. The poor female relatives of mine live in rural areas, and as poor as they seem, none of them are sitting in the bars and clubs.

Family upbringing plays an important part in people's lives. We've all heard the old saying: "like mother, like daughter". Meaning the personality and behaviours of the mother are similar to her daughter.

Why do you despise your 'sisters' so much?

Please set the record straight.

I don't despise them, I just don't think they are thinking straight.



Here's a prostitute, sent in by our playboy photographer.

http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/prostitute-in-vientiane.jpg

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 21^st May, 2011 at 11:47pm:

I don't despise them, I just don't think they are thinking straight. Here's a prostitute, sent in by our playboy photographer. http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/prostitute-in-vientiane.jpg

DAMN!!! I need to rush back to the land of my forefathers! ASAP!

Bring lots of money for them too, because they need it.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 22^nd May, 2011 at 12:55am:

Bring lots of money for them too, because they need it.

Yep. Don't we all?

Sounds like you've relented on your hardline stance concerning your 'sisters'?

I don't care what they do with their life, it's their business. But as far as me supporting prostitution, no.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 22^nd May, 2011 at 9:34pm:

I don't care what they do with their life, it's their business. But as far as me supporting prostitution, no.

You sound real firm in that regards. Doesn't look like you'll change your mind anytime soon- if ever.

It's safe to assume that you don't associate with prostitutes? I highly doubt you know any too. :)

Prostitution is the world oldest profession. Every country have prostitution. I don't supported or want anything to do with them either, but I believe that people should have freedom to gamble or be a sex worker. As long as they're over the age of 18. Its their business.
;)



Admin Saovaluck wrote on 22^nd May, 2011 at 9:34pm:

I don't care what they do with their life, it's their business. But as far as me supporting prostitution, no.

I don't associate with prostitutes, I am in my world and they are in their world.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 6:32am:

I don't associate with prostitutes, I am in my world and they are in their world.

Do you know of any though? Anyone you grew up with that does that sort of thing?

llX wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 5:37am:

Prostitution is the world oldest profession. Every country have prostitution. I don't supported or want anything to do with them either, but I believe that people should have freedom to gamble or be a sex worker. As long as they're over the age of 18. Its their business. ;)

Well said my brother. Live your own fukcen lives and stop gossipping about others'! ;D

Larb Dip wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 7:00am:

Do you know of any though? Anyone you grew up with that does that sort of thing?

No, I don't. Most of the girls I grew up with in the city come from families who have money.

My connections in the countryside are poor, but they're from respectable families and they don't venture away from home.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 7:39am:

No, I don't. Most of the girls I grew up with in the city come from families who have money.

Of course. Why did I ask such a stupid question.


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 7:39am:

My connections in the countryside are poor, but they're from respectable families and they don't venture away from home.

Are your 'connections' your pinong? What do you mean "they don't venture away from home"? Why are they kept on lock-and-key? What's going on here? Is this a Hi-So ritual, or what?

Yes, my connections in rural areas are a mixture of close and distant relatives, they are far from being a "Hi-So". They go out to work, school, shopping etc, but they come back home the same day.

Working girls are generally away from home and spend the night in bars and around hotels.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 9:03am:

Yes, my connections in rural areas are a mixture of close and distant relatives, they are far from being a "Hi-So". They go out to work, school, shopping etc, but they come back home the same day.

Prostitutes don't?


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 9:03am:

Working girls are generally away from home and spend the night in bars and around hotels.

Do prostitutes feel ashamed? Do they work close to their homes?

Prostitutes work at night, and they often travel far away from home.

Maybe you can ask them yourself if they feel ashamed.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 10:39am:

Maybe you can ask them yourself if they feel ashamed.

Okay. If you REALLY need to know. Next time I take a pusao to bed, I'll quiz her on that piece of trivia - in betwwen rounds. That' task isn't too much to grant to a fond associate of mine. It would be an honour and a priviledge! ;)

Is there anything else you would like to become privvy to in regards to the happenings in the lives of prostitutes? Now would be the time to say so.:-?

You go ahead and do that. The best answer is the answer straight from the horses mouth.

Why don't both of your just find a room

LOL! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 23^rd May, 2011 at 9:21pm:

You go ahead and do that. The best answer is the answer straight from the horses mouth.

You so grumpy nang? You DON'T despise prostitutes? Yeah................whatever! ;D

However, I think you would look twice as hot sporting a crafty countenance - you know, the exprssion where your eyes shrink to slits and you're giving off that 'if looks could kill' look. ;)

This is the expression I am doing at the moment.

http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/lao-girl-with-killer-eyes.jpg

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 24^th May, 2011 at 8:53pm:

This is the expression I am doing at the moment. http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/lao-girl-with-killer-eyes.jpg

Why don't you post your own picture?

That's not mad/sexy enough. The eyes need to be squintier!

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 1^st Jan, 2010 at 3:15am:

Okay Mr. Smart. Happy New Year to all Patikan overseas. We understand you still care and want to do what's best for Laos and we're thankful for that.

This is the first time I've actually come across you livid, seaw. Do you think of all us Lao refugees as 'Patikan'? :'(

Time change people change, can't blame no one. This day is all about money. Pride can't put the food on the table. Our beautiful children had became the bargirls.
If you didn't born with silver spoon in your mouth then that only way you (girls) can make quick cash in Laos.

For these reasons I have to say: WE HAVE NO PRIDE. IT DOES MATTER YOU ARE AGREE WITH ME OR NOT.
LAOS GOVT HAVE MADE OUR PEOPLE TO BECAME TRASH THERE IS NO EXCUSE.
I DO NOT LIKE EXCUSE, ONLY ASSSHOLE HAVE EXCUSE.

Ku man Patikan, Tair lux Ban lux Muang, Bor khue Lao Communist

Want Laos To Be Independence wrote on 25^th May, 2011 at 3:50am:

Time change people change, can't blame no one. This day is all about money. Pride can't put the food on the table. Our beautiful children had became the bargirls. If you didn't born with silver spoon in your mouth then that only way you (girls) can make quick cash in Laos. For these reasons I have to say: WE HAVE NO PRIDE. IT DOES MATTER YOU ARE AGREE WITH ME OR NOT. LAOS GOVT HAVE MADE OUR PEOPLE TO BECAME TRASH THERE IS NO EXCUSE. I DO NOT LIKE EXCUSE, ONLY ASSSHOLE HAVE EXCUSE. Ku man Patikan, Tair lux Ban lux Muang, Bor khue Lao Communist

I have already put this to her. The admin' thinks the girls in Laos only turn to prostitution because of their 'upbringings'. She's real firm on that.

People work in sex trade because of poverty.
;)

Stop corruption and creating job ( Help your ppl )
Be poor is better than be a hooker with HIV, Don't you think so?

llX wrote on 25^th May, 2011 at 4:38am:

People work in sex trade because of poverty. ;)

Try telling that to the admin'. There is no such thing as poverty as far as she is concerned. ;D

Poverty and less opportunity. For some people. Why work for $100 a month when you can make $1,000 a month as a sex worker.
:)


Larb Dip wrote on 25^th May, 2011 at 5:42am:

llX wrote on 25th May, 2011 at 4:38am: People work in sex trade because of poverty. ;) Try telling that to the admin'. There is no such thing as poverty as far as she is concerned. ;D

Larb Dip wrote on 25^th May, 2011 at 3:44am:

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 1st Jan, 2010 at 3:15am: Okay Mr. Smart. Happy New Year to all Patikan overseas. We understand you still care and want to do what's best for Laos and we're thankful for that. This is the first time I've actually come across you livid, seaw. Do you think of all us Lao refugees as 'Patikan'? :'(

I don't remember the actual conversation, but I think someone mentioned that they were a "patikan", and I wished him and others who consider themselves a "patikanian", a joyful holiday season.

Admin Saovaluck wrote on 25^th May, 2011 at 7:38am:

I don't remember the actual conversation, but I think someone mentioned that they were a "patikan", and I wished him and others who consider themselves a "patikanian", a joyful holiday season.

So, you don't look down on us? You don't think of us as traitors, because you sounded pissed off.

I never look down on anybody, I love you all.

Adm, U did look down on your own sisters in Laos. U just like the rich spoil kid who don't know how to cook for themselves( new generation).
Put yourself in theirs shoes then you will feel them. ( pai dum naa birl doo)

I bet some of them might be your friends or related to you.

CORRUPTION + YAA BAA + HOOOKER = LAOS

I can be in their shoes, but I choose not to. I'd rather be in these shoes, worn by a girl who came from a poor background in Grand Rapids, Minnesota, who made a better choice in life.


http://www.laopride.com/pictures1/ruby-slippers-worn-by-judy-garland-as-dorothy.jpg