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This looks like someones fortress.

They have hard hat, but not safety glasses. Are they building a houses?
;)

There's probably no need for it. The guys who cut the metals (welders) wear safety glasses and shields.

Looks like they are building an apartment or office building.

In the US hard hat, steel toe boots, safety glasses is a must. You never know. Accident does happen. Company can get big fine by inspector if their worker don't wear safety equipment.
:o


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 30^th May, 2011 at 1:26am:

There's probably no need for it. The guys who cut the metals (welders) wear safety glasses and shields. Looks like they are building an apartment or office building.

llX wrote on 30^th May, 2011 at 1:29am:

In the US hard hat, steel toe boots, safety glasses is a must. You never know. Accident does happen. Company can get big fine by inspector if their worker don't wear safety equipment. :o

That's because workers in western countries have a habit of suing their employers, for their injuries, and this and that.

Therefore companies have very strict rules and guidelines.

Construction is one of the most dangerous jobs, and has high rates of injuries and death. Accident can occur at any moment. I also have education background in construction.
:)

llX wrote on 31^st May, 2011 at 4:56am:

I also have education background in construction. :)

How far did you progress with your construction education? Did you finish your apprenticeship, bro?

I had one year Diploma from Technical College. We has build a house from the ground up. If we don't have safety equipment they'll send us home.
;)



Larb Dip wrote on 31^st May, 2011 at 8:15am:

llX wrote on 31st May, 2011 at 4:56am: I also have education background in construction. :) How far did you progress with your construction education? Did you finish your apprenticeship, bro?

llX wrote on 31^st May, 2011 at 3:13pm:

I had one year Diploma from Technical College. We has build a house from the ground up. If we don't have safety equipment they'll send us home. ;) Larb Dip wrote on 31st May, 2011 at 8:15am: llX wrote on 31st May, 2011 at 4:56am: I also have education background in construction. :) How far did you progress with your construction education? Did you finish your apprenticeship, bro?

So, you got the papers?

I got two paper. One for 2 year CNC Technicians, and 1 year for Carpentry.
;)


Larb Dip wrote on 31^st May, 2011 at 7:58pm:

llX wrote on 31st May, 2011 at 3:13pm: I had one year Diploma from Technical College. We has build a house from the ground up. If we don't have safety equipment they'll send us home. ;) Larb Dip wrote on 31st May, 2011 at 8:15am: llX wrote on 31st May, 2011 at 4:56am: I also have education background in construction. :) How far did you progress with your construction education? Did you finish your apprenticeship, bro? So, you got the papers?

llX wrote on 31^st May, 2011 at 8:46pm:

I got two paper. One for 2 year CNC Technicians, and 1 year for Carpentry. ;)

Only one year?

It's too easy in the US! Are you a qualified carpenter?

My apprenticeship took me 4 years to complete. >:(

One year and you can work as entry level jobs or continues apprentice program with Union Carpenter. One year is not easy working in a hot sun and cold weather. We got hand on experience building a real house from the ground up. Apprentice is a jobs training. Technical college is a school there's a different.

US education is one of the best in the world. Many around the world come here to study.
;)


Larb Dip wrote on 1^st Jun, 2011 at 9:05pm:

llX wrote on 31st May, 2011 at 8:46pm: I got two paper. One for 2 year CNC Technicians, and 1 year for Carpentry. ;) Only one year? It's too easy in the US! Are you a qualified carpenter? My apprenticeship took me 4 years to complete. >:(

Company should provide saftety equipment. If worker get injured without saftety equipment company is to blame. Worker right should be protected, and sometime these big corporation, big business needed to get sued.
;)


Admin Saovaluck wrote on 30^th May, 2011 at 7:23am:

llX wrote on 30th May, 2011 at 1:29am: In the US hard hat, steel toe boots, safety glasses is a must. You never know. Accident does happen. Company can get big fine by inspector if their worker don't wear safety equipment. :o That's because workers in western countries have a habit of suing their employers, for their injuries, and this and that. Therefore companies have very strict rules and guidelines.

Any idea how much qualified builders in the US earn?

I'm not sure around $35,000-$100,000 or more. If you are sub contractors or had your own business you can make more.
;)


Larb Dip wrote on 2^nd Jun, 2011 at 6:02am:

Any idea how much qualified builders in the US earn?

Are they building a castle?  Looks like it's steel framed structure which is much better than wood.  The workers looked like Viet?  Man, I am becoming a Judy Garland fan now.

PEACE wrote on 2^nd Jun, 2011 at 1:21pm:

Are they building a castle?  Looks like it's steel framed structure which is much better than wood.

Steel frames are more durable and cheaper than the conventional timber homes. :)


PEACE wrote on 2^nd Jun, 2011 at 1:21pm:

Man, I am becoming a Judy Garland fan now.

What the hell is this supposed to mean? ;D

They only used steel frame for commercial building. For house they still used wood frame.
;)


PEACE wrote on 2^nd Jun, 2011 at 1:21pm:

Are they building a castle?  Looks like it's steel framed structure which is much better than wood.  The workers looked like Viet?  Man, I am becoming a Judy Garland fan now.

Admin added more pics of Judy for example in this topic.  I freaked out a couple of times when I accidentally clicked on 'Judy Garland Board' instead of 'General Lao Board' :D.


Larb Dip wrote on 2^nd Jun, 2011 at 8:21pm:

PEACE wrote on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 1:21pm: Are they building a castle?  Looks like it's steel framed structure which is much better than wood. Steel frames are more durable and cheaper than the conventional timber homes. :) PEACE wrote on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 1:21pm: Man, I am becoming a Judy Garland fan now. What the hell is this supposed to mean? ;D

Builders in Texas use wood as well for building homes because wood is cheaper.  My next house will be steel-framed structure.  I will make the house fireproof and termite proof but not sure about lightning though :D.


llX wrote on 2^nd Jun, 2011 at 10:52pm:

They only used steel frame for commercial building. For house tstill my used wood frame. ;) PEACE wrote on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 1:21pm: Are they building a castle?  Looks like it's steel framed structure which is much better than wood.  The workers looked like Viet?  Man, I am becoming a Judy Garland fan now.

llX wrote on 2^nd Jun, 2011 at 10:52pm:

They only used steel frame for commercial building. For house tstill my used wood frame. ;)

Residential properties are erected with steel frames as well!

PEACE wrote on 3^rd Jun, 2011 at 3:51am:

Builders in Texas use wood as well for building homes because wood is cheaper.  My next house will be steel-framed structure.  I will make the house fireproof and termite proof but not sure about lightning though :D.

Houses with steel frames are just as 'lightning proof' as timber homes.

How do you know all this? Last time you said you were a 'model'. ;D

U.S don't used steel frame for residential.
;)

Why not?

Another advantage of steel frames are that they don't bend!

Not sure. I think because steel frame cost more and time consuming to install. Average house in the U.S take 3 month or less to build. Time is money here. To build a nice average house with 3 room, 2 bath, 3 car garage. The material cost about $90,000 and Labors is about $120,000. After the house is finish they'll sell it for around $250,000. My quick estimation, but you know right now US housing market is at the bottom and not good.
;)


Larb Dip wrote on 3^rd Jun, 2011 at 6:54am:

Why not? Another advantage of steel frames are that they don't bend!

555, the no entry sign looks like a "no gay zombies" sign.

What I've heard that it costs more to use steel than wood in Texas for example because not many are not ready yet to use steel.


llX wrote on 3^rd Jun, 2011 at 7:50am:

Not sure. I think because steel frame cost more and time consuming to install. Average house in the U.S take 3 month or less to build. Time is money here. To build a nice average house with 3 room, 2 bath, 3 car garage. The material cost about $90,000 and Labors is about $120,000. After the house is finish they'll sell it for around $250,000. My quick estimation, but you know right now US housing market is at the bottom and not good. ;) Larb Dip wrote on 3rd Jun, 2011 at 6:54am: Why not? Another advantage of steel frames are that they don't bend!

From 'homework' to get knowledge and knowledge is power.  

I mainly do subsurface earth 'modellng' (80% of the my time at work) - sorry for not clarifying ;D.   However I have done some body parts modeling in the past :o.

Here is the woodframe 'skeleton' look like after the dust had settled.  Probably the same in Minnesota?




Larb Dip wrote on 3^rd Jun, 2011 at 6:26am:

llX wrote on 2nd Jun, 2011 at 10:52pm: They only used steel frame for commercial building. For house tstill my used wood frame. ;) Residential properties are erected with steel frames as well! PEACE wrote on 3rd Jun, 2011 at 3:51am: Builders in Texas use wood as well for building homes because wood is cheaper.  My next house will be steel-framed structure.  I will make the house fireproof and termite proof but not sure about lightning though :D. Houses with steel frames are just as 'lightning proof' as timber homes. How do you know all this? Last time you said you were a 'model'. ;D